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Old January 10th, 2008, 09:07 PM   #481
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OK - Just confirmed -- NEO building has now been moved from the May 28th 2008 occupancy to , late October early Novemember..
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 02:21 AM   #482
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Old March 16th, 2008, 11:19 PM   #483
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Old March 17th, 2008, 12:37 AM   #484
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are there plans to remove that elevated highway?
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Old March 17th, 2008, 02:45 AM   #485
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right now, no...the plan right now seems to be blocking the view of it by buildings towers on either side. it would have to be buried eventually though, it is aging quite rapidly so the upkeep will eventually become unsusustainable. give it ten years, at most.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 04:09 AM   #486
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These towers look goofy although the current tallest is quite handsome(grey one)
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Old March 17th, 2008, 09:19 AM   #487
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right now, no...the plan right now seems to be blocking the view of it by buildings towers on either side. it would have to be buried eventually though, it is aging quite rapidly so the upkeep will eventually become unsusustainable. give it ten years, at most.
that's dreaming. it'll take at least another 30 years. Unless you come out and pay for it that is.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #488
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Unfortunately, you're probably right. Even then, we'd still be left with the rail lines running parallel a few blocks north. I can't see them being buried any time soon either.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #489
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are there plans to remove that elevated highway?
nope, not going to happen any time soon if ever
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Old March 18th, 2008, 10:14 PM   #490
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too bad

the gardiner will be there until some federal funding comes into the city (which is never) . its a shame because we would have anice land scape otherwise ,
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Old March 19th, 2008, 04:42 AM   #491
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It will probably take something monumental like landing the Olympics for Toronto to undertake burying the Gardiner and rail lines.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 05:37 AM   #492
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I disagree. I see more sections of the elevated expressway removed for a surface bouelvard as a cost cutting measure starting within ten years
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Old March 19th, 2008, 05:45 AM   #493
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^ It worked for San Francisco.

City Place is certainly coming along. What is it like at street level these days? I haven't seen any recent pictures of the completed sections from that perspective. Any chance a local can take a couple of shots the next time they are by?
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Old March 19th, 2008, 07:09 AM   #494
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I disagree. I see more sections of the elevated expressway removed for a surface bouelvard as a cost cutting measure starting within ten years
Toronto is too accustomed to a cross downtown express way to accept any other types of solutions. The Gardener not only is the only way to drive across downtown, but it also connects two major express ways from the west and north.

Without the Gardener, pressure on the 401, and 427 will be too heavy for the routes to handel, and the DVP will loose much of its traffic and thus, design value.

One way of another, Toronto will always have a downtown expressway. There is no such thing as cost cutting measures, there is only what works and what not.

And maintain the expressway, as old as it may be, will not be more expensive than the complete econoimc costs of tearing it down.


And frankly, I see nothing wrong with the expressway. Many people like me have no problem with an elevated expressway downtown. With all the new developments happening, one can't see past what's directly infront of them anyways. Much less a highway that hidden behind towering buildings. And as much as the 401 was designed to be a Toronto bypass, the Gardener is a Toronto Throughpass. We can't live without them.

Also, the density in downtown Toronto was designed with the Gardener in mind, you take that out of the equation and put in something streetlevel, traffic would be unmanagable.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 07:49 AM   #495
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subway line or LRT from etobicoke to scarborough, 10 years...watch. i will dig the tunnel if i have to.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 09:01 PM   #496
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Also, the density in downtown Toronto was designed with the Gardener in mind, you take that out of the equation and put in something streetlevel, traffic would be unmanagable.
I have zero sympathy. These people want it both ways. They choose to live 10-50 km from work, get the government to build them freeways that ruin the areas of the city in which they exist, pollute the planet, then complain if they have to sit in traffic? Their selfishness knows few limits.

If they CHOOSE to live in the middle of nowhere, the rest of the city has to pay for their irresponsibility and arrogance? Enough already. They can sit in gridlock for 6 hours for all I care. Maybe that's the only way to get it through their thick skulls.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 10:37 PM   #498
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^ It worked for San Francisco.
It literally took an earthquake for them to replace the Embarcadero.

Also, I want to ask: what's the occupancy ratio of those condos? I'd hate to see the US housing crunch spread north and leave the entire waterfront with empty shells.
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Old March 20th, 2008, 12:15 AM   #499
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Put aside the debates about whether an unhealthy amount of investors are now poisoning this astonishing boom... every building that is actually built is occupied one way or another (renters rejoice).

I've read of countless projects cancelled around North America (and other parts of the world).

Toronto (Harry doesn't count)... not so much. Not so much at all.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 06:32 AM   #500
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