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Old August 8th, 2008, 12:37 AM   #2681
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Hi Tubeman

At the eastern end of the westbound sub-surface platform at Kings Cross there is a set of monitors. Normally such monitors show CCTV images of the platform to the driver. What are these ones for though? Obviously they are at the back of the train so there is no-one there to look at them.

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Old August 8th, 2008, 12:50 AM   #2682
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Hi Tubeman

At the eastern end of the westbound sub-surface platform at Kings Cross there is a set of monitors. Normally such monitors show CCTV images of the platform to the driver. What are these ones for though? Obviously they are at the back of the train so there is no-one there to look at them.

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There's a crossover east of the station, so the 'wrong road' monitors allow a driver departing back east off the westbound to see the platform-train interface. Any platform with a 'wrong road' move will have them, e.g. Embankment WB, South Ken WB etc.
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Old August 8th, 2008, 12:57 AM   #2683
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thats why the London underground has one of the best metro systems in the world also since i am a new yorker i have extreme fondness with the NYC Subway including the number 7 line since thats where i was raised at.

but anyways tubeman i heard that the London Underground is going to add an expansion or a new underground route i don't remember what it is but is it still going on and where will it go east of london or south of london?
Currently under construction:

East London Line extensions (2010)

Whitechapel - Dalston: brand new stations at Shoreditch High Street, Hoxton, Haggerston and Dalston plus extensions over existing NR lines beyond New Cross gate to West Croydon and Crystal Palace, serving all intermediate stations

DLR extensions

King George V - Woolwich Arsenal (2009)

Canning Town - Stratford International (2010), new stations at Star Lane, Abbey Road, Stratford High Street and Stratford International

Other

New stations at Shepherd's Bush (NR West London Line) and Wood Lane (Hammersmith & City Line), both 2008

...Plus plenty of approved and proposed projects like Crossrail 1, DLR to Dagenham Dock, 'Thameslink 2000' and so forth

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Old August 8th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #2684
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The Thameslink Programme (aka TL2000) belongs in the under construction category. Crossrail is a minor-works-under-construction, funding-for-major-works-not-signed-off-yet project.

One other major project is rebuilding the North London Line between Camden Road and Dalston, which will happen 2009-2011.
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Old August 9th, 2008, 11:24 AM   #2685
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The Thameslink Programme (aka TL2000) belongs in the under construction category. Crossrail is a minor-works-under-construction, funding-for-major-works-not-signed-off-yet project.

One other major project is rebuilding the North London Line between Camden Road and Dalston, which will happen 2009-2011.
Thanks for clarifying... My last post was a bit rushed!

I know a few bits n' bobs of platform lengthening have been carried out for 'Thameslink 2000' and certainly property has started to be emptied out (e.g. 180 Queen Victoria Street next to Blackfriars, which was a TFL property), but there's no activity on major works like the new viaduct through Southwark, is there?
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Old August 9th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #2686
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Oh as an aside U Thant do you know what the hell is happening (or not) with Imperial Wharf station? I need to know for the second edition of the book, which I'm trying to get out in time for Christmas.
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Old August 9th, 2008, 12:14 PM   #2687
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It depends on your definition of "under construction". I consider it to be when all of the procedural faffing is complete, funding is allocated and construction contracts are being awarded, because at that point physical construction is as good as inevitable, and it's very much moved past the proposal stage.

I don't think there are any major construction on Thameslink is happening yet, since this year is all about enabling works.

Imperial Wharf is, as of a few weeks ago, physically under construction, opening 2011.

(btw Are you adding Heathrow Junction to the next edition?)
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Old August 9th, 2008, 06:03 PM   #2688
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It depends on your definition of "under construction". I consider it to be when all of the procedural faffing is complete, funding is allocated and construction contracts are being awarded, because at that point physical construction is as good as inevitable, and it's very much moved past the proposal stage.

I don't think there are any major construction on Thameslink is happening yet, since this year is all about enabling works.

Imperial Wharf is, as of a few weeks ago, physically under construction, opening 2011.

(btw Are you adding Heathrow Junction to the next edition?)
Yes, I've got Heathrow Junction in there... can't find anything on its layout though, I've assumed it was a straightforward island platform on a spur to the north-west of the tunnel portal. Weird that a station which existed only a decade ago is so poorly documented, can't find any photos or anything.

Thanks re: Imperial Wharf... it says 2010 on wiki, and as it's already u/c mid-2008 I'm guessing 2010 is more likely than 2011... I'm surprised it's not 2009 even.
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Won't people's heads get in the way of the advertisements? The 95/96/09TS all have rather small windows..

They have advertisements like this on the Kyiv Metro I think.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #2690
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They have those in the HEX tunnel too
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I need to know for the second edition of the book, which I'm trying to get out in time for Christmas.
Have you corrected the station name typo on page 32?
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Old August 13th, 2008, 02:44 PM   #2694
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OK coming in rather late here, but what book? Got a link for more info?
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OK coming in rather late here, but what book? Got a link for more info?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/London-Railw...8628435&sr=1-1

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Old August 13th, 2008, 08:45 PM   #2696
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Have you corrected the station name typo on page 32?
Are you being picky about St James's / St James' Park?

Personally, I always write the possessive of names ending in 's' with just an apostrophe on the end, i.e. James', but I decided to use the spelling used on Tube maps with the additional 's' on the end.

Or is there a 'real' typo I've missed?!

There is a genuine station name typo on page 45 though... See if you can find it! I got a disgruntled email from a resident!
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Old August 13th, 2008, 10:14 PM   #2698
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Are you being picky about St James's / St James' Park?

Personally, I always write the possessive of names ending in 's' with just an apostrophe on the end, i.e. James', but I decided to use the spelling used on Tube maps with the additional 's' on the end.

Or is there a 'real' typo I've missed?!

There is a genuine station name typo on page 45 though... See if you can find it! I got a disgruntled email from a resident!
Are we referring to the Earl's Court/ Barons Court controversy?
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Looks like a great book. Added to my wish list, hopefully my girlfriend might buy it for me for Christmas
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Old August 14th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #2700
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Looks like a great book. Added to my wish list, hopefully my girlfriend might buy it for me for Christmas
Cheers... Be careful you get the right edition, I'm trying to get the second edition finished in time for the Christmas market. It's much better cartography than the first (in my humble opinion).
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