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Old August 18th, 2008, 01:20 PM   #2741
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Borough-Moorgate is due to them being forced to make trains running uphill to King William Street use the tunnel with the shallower gradient, which was on the right. When they extended south, they made the tunnels swap to have left-hand running on the extension, and when they extended north, ditto.

Kentish Town is a one above the other layout, with each platfrom on the east side of the track. While the centrelines of the tunnels cross, they don't swap completely like you've drawn them.
Thanks... I had a suspicion that the Borough-Moorgate explanation was something to do with the gradient into KWS, good to have it confirmed.

I know there's a bit of poetic license employed through Kentish Town, but depicting the two lines bang on top of each other would just make it look like it's single line and be visually very confusing. I left other examples of 'stacked' tracks like Notting Hill Gate and Chancery Lane well alone for this reason... Sometimes clarity wins over accuracy.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #2742
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The more I see about your book, Tubeman, the more I realise I probably should pick up a copy! If only shipping to NZ isn't prohibitively expensive for a student.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 04:22 PM   #2743
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The more I see about your book, Tubeman, the more I realise I probably should pick up a copy! If only shipping to NZ isn't prohibitively expensive for a student.
Well look at it this way, if you buy it on Amazon (spits) you save 50% (which they pass onto me... thanks for nothing!), which should cover the cost of shipping
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:28 PM   #2744
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The more I see about your book, Tubeman, the more I realise I probably should pick up a copy! If only shipping to NZ isn't prohibitively expensive for a student.
Have one less beer this Friday night. That'll cover the cost of shipping and it's worth it
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Old August 18th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #2745
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With those maps I sure will put it up on the Christmas list too
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Old August 19th, 2008, 02:09 AM   #2746
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Maybe we can share a copy svarty
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Old August 19th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #2747
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do comuter and LU trains still call at this station nowadays ?
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Old August 19th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #2748
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do comuter and LU trains still call at this station nowadays ?
That's Kew Gardens station on the District Line and North London Line. The only difference now is that the North London Line, previously operated by Silverlink, is now part of the London Overground network, which is run by LOROL under contract to Transport for London.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 09:30 PM   #2749
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do comuter and LU trains still call at this station nowadays ?
Yup, although as Gag rightly says the operator of the mainline trains has changed and are now under the auspices of TFL. I used to drive through this station, I used to love the Richmond Branch... The lovely bridge over The Thames, good track, fast speeds... and Kew is a pretty station (shame about Gunnersbury... The ugleist station in London? ...And where I grew up!).



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Old August 19th, 2008, 10:40 PM   #2750
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I guess you are meaning the ugliest Tube Station in London as that's not too bad.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 11:05 PM   #2751
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I guess you are meaning the ugliest Tube Station in London as that's not too bad.
It's not as bad as it used to be, the graffiti has all been painted over and therefore the concrete is much brighter. They've even splashed out on fake hanging baskets. When I was a lad it was a barren, windswept, concrete canyon covered in graffiti.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 11:12 PM   #2752
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I think Euston Square, Moorgate (Circle, H&C and Metropolitan lines), Mile End, Stepney Green and Victoria line stations north of Seven Sisters (they lack cladding on the ceiling!) are worse!

EDIT: Don't forget Redbridge!

Good question actually, what does everyone think is the worst tube station?
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Old August 19th, 2008, 11:14 PM   #2753
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London Overground is not commuter rail, it is orbital rail.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 03:03 AM   #2754
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Old August 20th, 2008, 03:46 AM   #2755
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:57 AM   #2756
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London Overground is not commuter rail, it is orbital rail.
Dunno if there's much of a distinction... If commuters use it, it's commuter rail, no? Plenty of people use LOROL services as part of their daily commute, e.g. the quickest way to get out of Hackney is LOROL to Highbury and change for the Victoria Line, there are many other examples, not least Watford Jcn - Euston which is a direct commuter route from the 'burbs into Central London.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:59 AM   #2757
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Good question actually, what does everyone think is the worst tube station?
I think in combination with the street level entrance probably Archway. You're right about Mile End too, that is pretty grim (and a suicide hot-spot).
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Old August 20th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #2758
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The 70s ticket office at Bromley-by-Bow is pretty grim. It was built after a fire gutted the original building.

(If you want a good example of relatively untouched historic railway architecture come a couple of stops down to Plaistow. Opened in 1892, many of the benches still sport the old logo of the London, Tilbury and Southend Railway. The immediate area outside the station may look a bit grey but the ticket office and platforms are like a little old country station. Apparently it's the best example of preserved original architecture on that stretch of the District line. BTW, Tubeman, any luck on finding me timetabled H&C services that leave the bay platform?)
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I used to drive through this station, I used to love the Richmond Branch...
When did you work on the District Line? I've probably been on trains driven by you.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 10:02 PM   #2760
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When did you work on the District Line? I've probably been on trains driven by you.

Driver March 1999 - June 2001 at Parson's Green Depot, then DMT (Duty Manager Trains) at Earl's Court June 2001 - June 2007... Over 8 years in total, but only 2 driving. You can see me being a DMT on 'The Tube' Series 1.
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