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Old December 30th, 2005, 10:52 PM   #321
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i'm wondering the same because looking at my tube map from 1992 it has the Thameslink line included as well as the North London line and part of the line out of Moorgate.
(it also classes the Waterloo and City line as national rail, was any particular reason for this ? )
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Old December 31st, 2005, 01:15 AM   #322
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i'm wondering the same because looking at my tube map from 1992 it has the Thameslink line included as well as the North London line and part of the line out of Moorgate.
(it also classes the Waterloo and City line as national rail, was any particular reason for this ? )
The Waterloo & City Line was London's (and the world's) second deep-bored Tube line after the City & South London.

It was built by the London & South Western Railway to allow easy movement of commuters between its Waterloo terminus and the City of London, when the Southern railway was formed ('grouping') the W&C became their property, then again when British rail was formed after WW2 it became theirs. It was only bought by London Underground Ltd in 1994. That's why the 1992 stock trains (identical to those on the Central Line) are in 'Network Southeast' colours still... when they were bought for the line it was still owned by British Rail.

The Finsbury Park to Moorgate line remained on the Tube Map because it was once a Tube Line... It was originally an independent line in its own right (and the only of the Tube lines to be built to Mainline loading gauge), but was bought by the Metropolitan Railway (1913) before later being transferred to the Northern Line (1937). Services were cut back to Drayton Park in 1964 as the then under construction Victoria Line now uses the 'Great Northern & City' Line tunnels at Finsbury Park. The line closed in October 1975 to allow conversion to Mainline, re-opening in 1976 as an alternative London terminus for electric trains from Hertfordshire.

In its final year as a Tube line it witnessed the worst train crash in London Underground history when a train ran into the end of the tunnel at Moorgate, killing 43.
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Old December 31st, 2005, 01:20 AM   #323
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Tubeman, when will you're book be out and will I be able to find it out in the sticks, up north?
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Old December 31st, 2005, 02:31 AM   #324
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Tubeman, when will you're book be out and will I be able to find it out in the sticks, up north?
February, but I don't have an actual date

I'd be surprised if it was that easy to track down 'oop north' as its about London, but you can always order it online from Ian Allan Publishing
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Old December 31st, 2005, 02:37 AM   #325
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whats the book called?
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Old December 31st, 2005, 02:43 AM   #326
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whats the book called?
'London Railway Atlas' Not very exciting!

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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:00 AM   #327
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I'll be looking for it Also, i must mention i've never bought a book before lol
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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:02 AM   #328
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You can pre-order it at WHSmiths.
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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:04 AM   #329
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You can pre-order it at WHSmiths.
For real?
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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:06 AM   #330
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You're right! Why was I not informed!!!!!
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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:23 AM   #331
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you're famous, Joe
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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:43 AM   #332
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I'm gonna get it on pre-order Any reviews you would like us to write for you to perhaps entice others to buy your book
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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:49 AM   #333
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I'm gonna get it on pre-order Any reviews you would like us to write for you to perhaps entice others to buy your book
"It is the greatest publication ever known to man, Shakespeare should hang his head in shame. People who do not buy this will have vacant and sad lives, and may as well kill themselves"

No too over the top?







Perhaps wait until it is published before reviewing it... It would look a bit sus otherwise!
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Old December 31st, 2005, 03:55 AM   #334
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hmmmm, whats shipping to western us?
Nm, only UK. boring
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Nm, only UK. boring
You can probably order it from a UK site?
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Old December 31st, 2005, 04:04 AM   #336
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ok, I will look
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Old December 31st, 2005, 04:07 AM   #337
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i think amazon will do it congrats
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...286269-6014367
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Old December 31st, 2005, 05:24 AM   #338
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Perhaps wait until it is published before reviewing it... It would look a bit sus otherwise!
Yeah perhaps, anyway.. got it on pre-order
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Old December 31st, 2005, 05:47 AM   #339
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I have ordered yet, but I probably will soon. Havent checked shipping charges yet (do I want to? )
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Old December 31st, 2005, 10:31 AM   #340
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It's also on Amazon, and on special!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...050119-6262204

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This book provides the reader with a straight forward and comprehensible study of the railways of Greater London. It shows all lines both open and closed, stations, changes of station names, and station opening and closing dates. It also provides a comprehensive and authoritative study of the whole network of lines in the capital, covering both ex-BR and London Underground tracks.
I will certainly be buying one!

@Frog, do have a copy of the 1992 map online that I can see?

@all, regarding a proper tube map with high frequency suburban rail. Well, this is a challenge, maybe one of us should create it, and Tubeman can put it in his next update to his book
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