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Old March 30th, 2011, 08:37 PM   #4481
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Yeah I alluded to this is post 4475... But that being said, the impression I get from this side of the channel is that France is no beacon of good industrial relations... they seem to go on strike all the time and for anything...

In the UK the only pockets of trades union militancy left appear to be LU, some mainline TOCs, the Post Office, and LFB... Elsewhere they've either killed off their own industry (shipbuilding, coal mining, UK owned car production) or are kept in their boxes.
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Old April 1st, 2011, 12:13 AM   #4482
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I live in Canada and Labour Strikes are quite rare in modern times. Its been awhile since I heard on any strikes locally, but a remember that Nursing Aides at Nursing Homes went on strike in 1996, Air Canada Pilots in 1998 and more recently natural resource related workers at mines and papermills. I read online and it seams that there is a strike each week in Europe alternating primarily between the UK and France. I sort of envy the US airlines and railways who benefit from the National Mediation Board under the Railway Labor Act which seeks to prevent strikes. Should the UK have similar legislation that restricts when unions in essential industries like public transportation can be able to strike?
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Old April 1st, 2011, 12:45 AM   #4483
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Should the UK have similar legislation that restricts when unions in essential industries like public transportation can be able to strike?
Most certainly, it is amazing how the transport industry is able to hold the country to ransom like it does.

Sounds like Aus is similar to Canada. Strikes are very very rare here AND might I add our terms and conditions of employment are quite reasonable and fair and our wages also relatively high.
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 06:20 PM   #4484
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Yo, Toobs!

Looking at some of the aerial photos of London's Olympic Park, I noticed that there is a long straight track that crosses the Stratford-Liverpool Street line, with a couple of yellow buildings on it (presumably viewing platforms/a visitors' centre). I went to find this on Google Earth, and noticed that it continues roughly ESE in a straight line all the way to the Thames, and has been resurfaced in a lot of places, presumably as a cycle route.

Looking at my second edition Brown, however, I can't see this line at all, other than some disused workings around "BECKTON GAS WORKS". What is/was it, and why is it not in your excellent tome?
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 06:51 PM   #4485
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The path is the Greenway and the yellow buidlings are the View Tube,
Start here for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenway,_London
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 08:17 PM   #4486
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Old April 4th, 2011, 11:38 PM   #4487
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Yup many people think it's an abandoned railway line, it's in fact a tunnel full of shit

The only clue really is it takes a couple of bends a little too sharp for a railway formation, like where it crosses over the District Line just west of Plaistow.

You can see its southern counterpart (Southern Outfall sewer) striking a similarly bold slash (pardon the expression) across Plumstead and Thamesmead.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 06:15 PM   #4488
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Has there ever been a train struk by lightning?
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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:34 PM   #4489
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Has there ever been a train struk by lightning?
Must have, but I guess the occupants would be safe much like those on a plane as the current would flow around the metal body and into the rails, not before the electrics were scrambled though.

As a District Line driver I used to ponder the thought driving in a thunderstorm, crossing the Thames at Putney or Kew you felt especially exposed. Once I departed Wimbledon in a violent storm and got stuck at Southfields for over an hour because lightning struck a signalling equipment cabinet on the viaduct ahead at East Putney and fried the signalling circuits, all the signals went red.

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Old April 6th, 2011, 11:21 PM   #4490
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Must have, but I guess the occupants would be safe much like those on a plane as the current would flow around the metal body and into the rails, not before the electrics were scrambled though.

As a District Line driver I used to ponder the thought driving in a thunderstorm, crossing the Thames at Putney or Kew you felt especially exposed. Once I departed Wimbledon in a violent storm and got stuck at Southfields for over an hour because lightning struck a signalling equipment cabinet on the viaduct ahead at East Putney and fried the signalling circuits, all the signals went red.

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Sounds exciting. And possible now that i read this. If it struck a signal(which i assume is smaller), it would most likley not miss something as big as a train. But i guess lightning never strikes twice, right.
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Old April 7th, 2011, 01:48 PM   #4491
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Lightning prefers to strike at pointy things rather than big flat surfaces such as a train so doubt one would get hit all that often. Lightning would be more likely to strike track side structures well before hitting the train. Same too with cars on the road etc, a street light will get hit before a car.

As for planes they get struck because they have points such as wingtips or the tail tip.
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Old April 8th, 2011, 11:40 AM   #4492
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People inside would still be safe as the tube body acts like a Faraday cage.
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Old April 10th, 2011, 01:16 AM   #4493
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Hey, another one from me I'm afraid.

So I was casually waiting at the end of the N.Bound Bakerloo platform at Oxford Circus and I saw a metal plate in the wall and it said 'Staff Letters'. I thought this was interesting and took note. Then, just as the jubilee train was pulling N.Bound into Finchley Road, I saw that there was another one of these things there too! It's odd that I've never noticed them before and yet I saw two in the same journey.

Anyway, it's obviously for 'Staff Letters' but I wondered what this might entail.
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Old April 10th, 2011, 12:10 PM   #4494
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Hey, another one from me I'm afraid.

So I was casually waiting at the end of the N.Bound Bakerloo platform at Oxford Circus and I saw a metal plate in the wall and it said 'Staff Letters'. I thought this was interesting and took note. Then, just as the jubilee train was pulling N.Bound into Finchley Road, I saw that there was another one of these things there too! It's odd that I've never noticed them before and yet I saw two in the same journey.

Anyway, it's obviously for 'Staff Letters' but I wondered what this might entail.
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Just internal mail, just like we have an internal telephone network we have an internal mail system. The sorting office is at Baker Street, and most of the staff sorting / delivering are regular staff on 'light duties' (e.g. recovering from surgery, on restricted medication).

We used to use Guards as postmen, i.e. the Guard would be given mail and told to post at a certain station, hence I assume the 'Staff letters' boxes you saw were towards the rear of the train.

I don't think these boxes are really used anymore, there are no more Guards and drivers tend not to see post delivery as part of their job, and there are ample numbers of people available to do mail runs.

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Old April 10th, 2011, 11:21 PM   #4495
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^Wonderful, thanks. I guessed it would be something along those lines, but wondered if it was anything more exciting.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #4496
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Just a quickie, anyone know how long the closures are going to last on London Overground at the weekends?
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 10:21 AM   #4497
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Just a quickie, anyone know how long the closures are going to last on London Overground at the weekends?
Dunno... but there certainly seems to be a hell of a lot!

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/livetravel...ll-future.html
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Old April 25th, 2011, 07:59 PM   #4498
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Just came across this, is this recent as I know they are just starting to refurbish the 1992 stock?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...oo_19-8-06.jpg

Also just to note, that Central line train I got a seat on about a month ago that had the new blue interior... not seen it since. Very odd.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 11:57 PM   #4499
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That's a car from the W&C line. They used to look like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...06_closeup.jpg

That perticular one is just going to get refurbished when the pic was taken.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #4500
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Tubeman, why are there no services now on the North London Line from Camden Road through to the Primrose Hill junction and the stations on the Watford DC line, which is less circuitous to Willesden Junction than via Gospel Oak, and what is this link currently used for? Is it simply due to lack of patronage, and/or capacity on the line into Euston?
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