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Old December 21st, 2006, 03:04 AM   #1061
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Ohh dear thats going to cost us a disgusting shitload of money to build.

This is what happens when you have morons in charge that want to build such projects just to boast about them.

Thanks...All that information was informative and appreciated...
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Old December 21st, 2006, 01:11 PM   #1062
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Ohh dear thats going to cost us a disgusting shitload of money to build.

This is what happens when you have morons in charge that want to build such projects just to boast about them.

Thanks...All that information was informative and appreciated...
Well I personally believe any investment in high-speed rail is money well spent. In a country like Pakistan it will boost economic development and prevent the exponential growth in carbon emissions when every household has the means to buy a car. As I said, I very much doubt the HST route there will cost as much as the extravagant costs incurred building TGV or CTRL.

My Pakistani geography isn't brilliant, but is Islamabad - Lahore essentially straight along the central, flat, Indus valley of Central Pakistan? If so the topography would be pretty favourable.
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Old December 21st, 2006, 02:38 PM   #1063
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My question for Tubeman - where did you get those tights?

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Old December 21st, 2006, 06:44 PM   #1064
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Hi Tubeman

How come the Waterloo and City line still needs so much engineering work after being closed for several months to supposedly get it all done in one hit?
And what do think of that "closed due to dust" incident a while ago on the same line?

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Old December 22nd, 2006, 07:46 PM   #1065
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 07:51 PM   #1066
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How come the Waterloo and City line still needs so much engineering work after being closed for several months to supposedly get it all done in one hit?
And what do think of that "closed due to dust" incident a while ago on the same line?

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I don't really know the undercurrent of calamities behind the Waterloo & City Line upgrade... You certainly would have thought that after being closed for several months that would be it in terms of closures for some time, so the subsequent nightly / weekend closures are baffling.

The dust incident sounds like Trade Union Health & Safety Reps getting their pants in a twist... On such a small line all it takes is one Rep on duty to decide that there's too much dust who can in turn persuade the other 5 or so drivers not to pick up, and the line's closed. Signal sighting was the excuse... of course it could have been an impenetrable haze of dust down there, but I doubt it was that bad. It might also be a political move by TFL to discredit Metronet even further as the dust was 'their' fault, not ours.
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 05:59 PM   #1067
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Hey Tubeman,

Merry Christmas.
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Old December 25th, 2006, 07:28 AM   #1068
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Maybe this has been asked before numerous times but why is there NO SERVICE on ANY LU line on Christmas Day. LU serves the whole of London but is there really no commuter traffic in London on Christmas Day?
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Old December 25th, 2006, 07:32 PM   #1069
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In the UK, only the very bare essentials operate on Christmas Day, and even they are operating at the smallest possible capacity.
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Old December 25th, 2006, 09:04 PM   #1070
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Maybe this has been asked before numerous times but why is there NO SERVICE on ANY LU line on Christmas Day. LU serves the whole of London but is there really no commuter traffic in London on Christmas Day?
Think of the poor staff! We have run on Christmas day in the past and the services were pathetically under-used so scrapped. Its nice to just have at least one day a year where we are all off work!

National Rail shuts down for Boxing Day too... considering I'm in work tomorrow that's quite an attractive proposition
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Old December 25th, 2006, 09:24 PM   #1071
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Tubeman!

Merry Christmas.

Do you know anything in particular about what sort of upgrades will be made in Cockfosters station? Apparently rennovation works will continue until May next year, but it seems to me that some parts have been made even worse!

Just wondering what to expect for the near-future.

Thanks in advance.
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Old December 25th, 2006, 09:53 PM   #1072
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Tubeman!

Merry Christmas.

Do you know anything in particular about what sort of upgrades will be made in Cockfosters station? Apparently rennovation works will continue until May next year, but it seems to me that some parts have been made even worse!

Just wondering what to expect for the near-future.

Thanks in advance.

I'm not aware of any specifics, but as Cockfosters is a good example of Inter-War London Transport architecture I doubt it will be anything less than a pretty faithful restoration. In the short term it might look pretty nasty as old concrete is drilled out etc, but I'm fairly certain the end result will be better than how it looked before. I presume it will also be getting made DDA compliant (i.e. step-free), which can cause some fairly drastic internal changes.
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Old December 25th, 2006, 10:05 PM   #1073
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Ah, you mean a step-free entrance? I thought that too, and it seemed the case since each stairway was closed for "rennovations" which claimed to aid those with sight difficulties or something, but when finished it was just lighter in color, and such a poor quality surface finish compared to before!

Anyway, I guess it's not really that big a deal.

Moving on, are there any interior shots of the carriages from the previous page? I like the new design.
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Old December 26th, 2006, 03:02 AM   #1074
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RE Tram Schemes..

As nonsencicle as it sounds, it appears that the Cross River Tram Scheme will not actualy use the Kingsway tram tunnel, it will rather run on the road above the abandoned tunnel... No, I don't understand either...
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Old December 26th, 2006, 10:13 PM   #1075
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RE Tram Schemes..

As nonsencicle as it sounds, it appears that the Cross River Tram Scheme will not actualy use the Kingsway tram tunnel, it will rather run on the road above the abandoned tunnel... No, I don't understand either...
The southern end of the tram tunnel is now occupied by a road, so this probably explains why its now effectively useless for CrossRiver trams. Shame
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Old December 26th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #1076
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Moving on, are there any interior shots of the carriages from the previous page? I like the new design.
There sure are, just follow this link.
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Old December 26th, 2006, 11:17 PM   #1077
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yo tubeman merry christmas

so the Cross River Tram will work or not and where will it run i mean its interesting london is coming back with trams thats cool
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Old December 27th, 2006, 01:30 AM   #1078
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There sure are, just follow this link.
Thanks!

It looks pretty modern and clean inside, although not very different, it must be said.

I don't know why, but recently I've just found myself becoming more and more interested in the Tube network. (I always have been, but never really did much research into it)

Was just looking at some articles on Wikipedia, and learnt so many new things.

One question about the piccadilly line Heathrow extension: Will an airport-bound train always stop at all five terminals; or will it be a case of either T4 or T5 as the final stop?

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Also! Just read that the S-Stock trains from '09 onwards will have air-conditioning! Awesome.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 01:55 AM   #1079
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I am in the Railway Industry too.
I work in the Belgrano Norte line in Buenos Aires.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 08:57 PM   #1080
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so the Cross River Tram will work or not and where will it run i mean its interesting london is coming back with trams thats cool
Yes, I'm positive about this: the tram's first foray back into Central London in 50 years;



http://www.lrta.org/london-Xriver.html

It certainly could work and work well: it will give some very deprived areas of South London (Walworth, Peckham, Brixton, Stockwell, Elephant & Castle) a quick, convenient link into Waterloo and Central London, and provide a very useful link between King's Cross St Pancras and Waterloo termini when there is currently no direct Tube route (I spent a couple weeks sampling life at King's Cross a couple of years ago for career development and you wouldn't believe how often you get asked how to get to Waterloo... and its complicated!). I think the crux of it is segregated street running, so it shouldn't be held hostage by London traffic.

Merry Christmas to you too!
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