Manchesters Hotels!(built and proposed)

[markydeedrop]

[CDX]

Hmmm, now a 5 star hotel...and it looks like the operator is agreed(subject to planning).

From the D+A:

1.1 THE PURPOSE OF THIS DOCUMENT

This Design and Access Statement has been prepared on behalf of Peel Investments (Leisure) Limited to accompany the planning application for a proposed 230 bedroom 5 star hotel on land adjacent to junction 9 of the M60.

This application revises the hotel scheme approved on the same site for a 4 star hotel, granted in December 2008 reference H/69777. The proposals involve the creation of a landmark hotel of international status and iconic design on a vacant piece of land adjacent to the Trafford Centre.

The proposed hotel will be a five star full service offer operated by an internationally-branded operator. The scheme design has been developed in close liaison with this operator.
...
1.2 CONSENTED SCHEME

During the detailed design of the previously approved hotel and due to the changing nature of the hotel market place, both nationally and locally to Trafford a change in hotel operator has arisen. A leading 5 Star hotel operator is now agreed. The proposals have been formally approved at the highest level, only planning approval is waited.

http://planningdocs.trafford.gov.uk/...pplication/%22

Originally Posted by CDX

Looks like Peels hotel scheme by the Trafford Centre is being revised, new app:

74564/FULL/2010
Land bounded by Parkway Junction 9, M60 and southern boundary of Trafford Centre.

Erection of hotel building of 16 storeys in height (with an additional mezzanine level above ground floor) incorporating an increase of 18 bedrooms (a total of 230 bedrooms) and reduction in the overall height of the building (reduced by 6 metres) from that approved under LPA ref: H/69777, together with guest only health spa/leisure facility, a function/conference suite, meeting rooms, a bar lounge, cafe and restaurant together with administration, servicing and storage areas and associated access, car parking and landscaping works.

[flange]

Not too much of design change from the original design, the hotel operator before was apparently Crown Plaze so maybe it could be one of the IHG group hotels, so Intercontintal Hotels, Crowne Plaza, Holiday Inn, Holiday Inn Express, Hotel Indigo, Stayleybridge Suites.

[uklad1979]

The only 5 star brand IHG own is Intercontinental which is usually based in City Centres and Airports. That said Crowne Plaza were due to run it and Peel are running the Media City hotel as a Holiday Inn so it seems they have a partnership with IHG.

[jrb]

Don't see the point in having a roof garden(?). The view is either the TC car park and TC in the background or a container park.

[PeteVincent82]

Why would anybody pay 5 star rates for a hotel in this location. Surely it has no appeal whatsoever

[CDX]

The location does seem bizarre for a high end luxury hotel, I sense a certain amount of spin from Peel.

They've managed to get another floor in, adding 18 rooms, yet reduced the height by 6m, aims to be the first 'BREEAM excellent' hotel in the UK.

Actually Crowne Plaza does get an extremely small mention in the bottom right of the plans,



makes you wonder whether the operator has changed.

[AJD1984]

Couldn't they have come up with a better design. It looks like a block of flat 'tarted' up. I personally can't see Intercontinental wanting to take up residence in such an ugly building.

Andrew

[jrb]

It has a Brighton or Morecambe feel about it. I expect the old QE2 to sail past any minute. Where's the lighthouse going?

[SteKnight]

This has been approved this week.

Originally Posted by jrb

New Hotel gone in. Strange location. No docs yet.

Land Within And Adjacent To
227 Upper Brook Street
Ardwick
Manchester
M13 0HB

Erection of part 6, part 5, part 3 storey 100 bedroom hotel (3100 sqm) with roof top plant and equipment, single storey projecting extension to form entrance lobby and servicing area, vehicular access arrangements from Upper Brook Street, car parking areas for 60 cars (including 4 accessible spaces) and associated landscaping, boundary treatments and external lighting to car park following demolition of existing 2 storey office building and workshops

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.g...rchtype=WEEKLY

Google maps.

The site. Industrial units directly opposite the Upper Brook Street wording.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?layer=...OJS9jAf_0LXaDg

[iheartthenew]

Originally Posted by CDX

The location does seem bizarre for a high end luxury hotel, I sense a certain amount of spin from Peel.

Handy for the more monied Man U fans* coming up from London. They can also bring friends/family** who dont like football but might enjoy a spot of shopping instead



*sorry 'corporate guests'

**WAGs?

[highriser]

Originally Posted by iheartthenew

Handy for the more monied Man U fans* coming up from London. They can also bring friends/family** who dont like football but might enjoy a spot of shopping instead



*sorry 'corporate guests'

**WAGs?

Yawn yawn ,,, City could have done with a few extra fans tonight , looking at the swaths of empty seats i saw on TV . Why are you bringing football into this thread anyway ?

[bank street]

Originally Posted by iheartthenew

Handy for the more monied Man U fans* coming up from London. They can also bring friends/family** who dont like football but might enjoy a spot of shopping instead

*sorry 'corporate guests'

**WAGs?

Discounting the football bits, I would say you're not far off. The number of "shopping tourists" who visit the TC is more significant than you might think. Pretty big demand for something nearby thats not Premier Inn. This'll do well... "Panoramic views of the M60" too.

[WatcherZero]

Might be the odd visiting retail executive as well.

[First 4 Retail News]

TRAVELODGE HOTELS LIMITED

New Hotel Target List - February 2010
* Manchester Central - Deal done at 200 beds - planned opening 2012
* Manchester G/Mex - Deal close to be signed
* Manchester MEN Arena / Deansgate - Deal close to be signed
* Manchester Miles Platting - In early discussions
* Manchester North J19 M60 - In early discussions
* Manchester Piccadilly - Deal done at 157 beds - opening Spring 2011
* Manchester Oxford Road - Deal done at 100 beds - opening autumn 2011
* Manchester Salford Quays - Deal done at 154 beds - opening winter 2011/12
* Manchester Ardwick - Deal done at 100 beds - opening summer 2011

[iheartthenew]

That's quite a list! Are sure you meant Travelodge, not Tescolodge

[Seasonedbest]

Travelodchester. Jesus, is the demand really there? Why and what sort of people will be staying in them? No snob, but the only time I'd do it is when partaking in smash. There are better and cheaper options in my opinion.

[highriser]

Yes you are being a "snob"

[Chogmook]

Hotel plan for Boddingtons brewery site
February 17, 2010

The former Boddington’s brewery site has been earmarked for a 200-bed Travelodge hotel.

The budget hotel will be the first tenant on the Strangeways plot in four years.

The seven acre area was set for a major housing and leisure complex after developers bought the site in 2006, but progress was stalled by the recession.

A scheme to build a new Manchester College campus, announced in 2008, was also shelved due to a lack of government funding.

Developers Deansgate Securities Ltd are now hoping the Travelodge 35-year lease deal will ‘kick-start’ interest in the site.

Alan Burke, of Deansgate Securities, which is in a joint venture with Ask Developments Ltd and Realty Estates, said: “It’s a difficult market, and to get a deal on the Boddington’s site is great.

“We’ve got big ambitions and this reflects a massive vote of confidence in the site, which is a stone’s throw from a highly successful M.E.N Arena and Manchester’s primary shopping area, the Arndale Centre.”

Travelodge will submit a planning application to Manchester council by the end of this month, and if given the green light, the hotel will be opened in June 2011

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....s_brewery_site

[jrb]

Place North West.

Ask/Realty agrees pre-let with Travelodge at Boddingtons
17 Feb 2010, 08:15

Michael Hunt

Deansgate Securities, a joint venture between Ask Developments and Realty Estates, has agreed pre-let terms with hotelier Travelodge for a 200 bedroom hotel on the 7.4-acre former Boddingtons Brewery in Manchester.

Travelodge has agreed to take a 35 year lease, which is the first pre-let and pre-sale deal for the developer.

Deansgate Securities has also sold the site being occupied by the 75,000 sq ft Travelodge to Marcus Worthington Properties, which will construct the hotel.

Alan Burke, of Deansgate Securities, said: "We are delighted to have agreed terms with Travelodge, our first tenant, on the former Boddingtons Brewery site. This decision has been taken while the economy is still fragile and the property market remains subdued. It reflects a massive vote of confidence in the site, which is a stone's throw from the highly successful MEN Arena and Manchester's primary shopping area, the Arndale Centre.

"We are also delighted to announce today that we have agreed terms with Marcus Worthington Properties to forward purchase the investment and undertake the construction work. Our forward sale deal with MWPL reflects both parties willingness to think outside the box in a difficult funding marketplace".

Russ Worthington, director of Marcus Worthington Properties, added: "Because we are both developer and contractor we can aggressively compete with others in the market and act as a catalyst for development, facilitating deals like this one with Deansgate Securities.

"MWPL are delighted to be working with DSL and this is the third hotel deal we have done in the last six months which will further enhance our commercial development portfolio. We have been active throughout this turbulent period and are continually in search of similar opportunities."

The developer expects to submit a detailed planning application for the scheme by the end of February and be on site in July 2010. It is anticipated that the hotel will open for business in June 2011.

Ask and Realty Estates acquired the site in 2006 with funding from HSBC. Architects are HKR in Manchester.

Travelodge now operates 380 hotels in Ireland, Spain and the UK. The company has ambitions to expand, with plans to operate 70,000 rooms by 2020 and to be the biggest hotel operator in London by the time of the 2012 Olympics.