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Old November 24th, 2005, 05:50 PM   #1
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Virginia's Most Dangerous Cities

Morgan Quitno Press, a Kansas-based publishing and research firm, ranked cities in a list of the states most dangerous cities witha a population of 75,000 or more.

The Score of "0.00" would reflect an average crime rate at the national rate. A postive score reflects an average rate above the national rate. A negative score, reflects an average below the national rate.

CITY....................................................................Score
1. Richmond..........................................................266.56
2. Roanoke............................................................64.51
3. Portsmouth........................................................61.39
4. Newport News....................................................53.33
5. Norfolk..............................................................41.26
6. Hampton............................................................0.56
7. Chesapeake.......................................................-6.40
8. Virginia Beach....................................................-39.67

What do you think about these? Have a Great Thanksgiving -weill-
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Old November 24th, 2005, 08:58 PM   #2
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Ashamed to say that Richmond finally makes it to the top of a list.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 09:49 PM   #3
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oh god no, lock your doors at night and don't talk to strangers!!! better yet, move to the suburbs, in a gated community.

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Old November 25th, 2005, 04:27 AM   #4
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should i be shocked that no Northern Virginia cities made the list or no?
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Old November 25th, 2005, 05:24 AM   #5
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What? There aren't many independent cities in NoVa anyways. Besides, Alexandria is the biggest and only one even eligible for the morgan quitno publication (it only includes cities over 75k, so unfortunately, mighty cities like Manassas Park and Falls Church aren't included). Most people live in the never ending suburbia that typifies Northern Virginia.

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Old November 25th, 2005, 06:19 AM   #6
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oh god no, lock your doors at night and don't talk to strangers!!! better yet, move to the suburbs, in a gated community.

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Well, locking your doors at night is a generally good idea. Can't vouch for the others you mentioned.
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Old November 25th, 2005, 06:21 AM   #7
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Use common sense, no matter what large city you are in, and you'll be fine. In other words, if it looks like a "crack" neighborhood, then it is a "crack" neighborhood.
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Old November 26th, 2005, 12:01 AM   #8
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Eventhough I'm from DC, I always known Richmond is kind of dangerous place to live!
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Old November 26th, 2005, 04:22 AM   #9
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if you live in the projects sure... just like if you live near RFK... or you pick your D.C. project.

Most of the city is fine.
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Old November 26th, 2005, 06:54 PM   #10
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I can tell you one thing, even with the sprawl and the boring life,...etc., there is no part of northern va that's like a petersburg or parts of richmond or roanoke. How you even mention Manassas Park or Falls Church is laughable.

But even then, yes, there's too many independent cities for anything to be included in it.

Richmond is a nice city, it's got a lot of work to do, but tons of potential, I really hope people don't hype these kinds of stats too much, I'm so used to defending DC, even now that the city is a least a little better, people still want to believe it's crack-infested like the '80s. These stats reflect a sad situation usually among in an isolated area usually among a isolated community.
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Old November 26th, 2005, 10:48 PM   #11
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These stats reflect a sad situation usually among in an isolated area usually among a isolated community.
Exactly.... I used Falls Church and Manassas park for a laugh Alexandria is pretty much the only real city in NoVa.

The stat sucks, but it's only one step back back (or really just not a step forward)... there are SO many things happening in Richmond that are awesome.
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Old November 27th, 2005, 07:06 AM   #12
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Thought this was worth noting:

"A 2004 report for Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSAs) shows the Richmond MSA with 431 violent crimes per 100,000 inhabitants. That compares with 730 for Jacksonville, 872 for Nashville, and 763 for Charlotte. Of the nine categories comprising this violent-crime index, Richmond has the highest rate in only one category, murder and non-negligent manslaughter -- and actually has the lowest rate in several of the other categories. This report doesn't mean we don't have serious issues requiring attention. Every crime is personal, and even one is too many. But we do need to understand we aren't as bad as we are often perceived."
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Old November 27th, 2005, 07:40 AM   #13
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I guess it reflects well on VA that even its worst is really not that bad.
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Old November 27th, 2005, 11:56 PM   #14
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Although that data maybe correct, its really unfair when comparing VA cities to others across the nation, because of that fact that it limits city boundaries to small areas, usually in more fragile areas. If they included parts of Henrico County (which some parts actually have Richmond addresses), it would probably be on the same level as a Raleigh or Greensboro. I don't know who's idea was it to come up with a totally separate jurisdiction for the city, but it wasn't very smart, because it increases the divide between inner city schools and suburban schools.

I agree though on Northern Virginia, there just aren't enough independent cities there to compare with the rest of the state, but there are pockets of poverty (especially around Triangle/Quantico) there as well.
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Old November 28th, 2005, 12:11 AM   #15
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I don't know who's idea was it to come up with a totally separate jurisdiction for the city, but it wasn't very smart, because it increases the divide between inner city schools and suburban schools.
That would be Medieval Brits. Virginia adopted the same city/county relationship ye olde England had. Apart from Baltimore, MD there's nothing like it in the U.S.
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Old November 28th, 2005, 12:26 AM   #16
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Maybe that smell in Richmond is that of decayed bodies instead of the tobacco plants.
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Old November 28th, 2005, 12:33 AM   #17
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Maybe that smell in Richmond is that of decayed bodies instead of the tobacco plants.


thats gross lol
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Old November 28th, 2005, 12:35 AM   #18
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What's your beef with Richmond?

I thought I already explained to you, that since you simply drive through Richmond, you can smell the Waste water treatment plant on the south side of the I-95 bridge. I'm sure even the shit in Rochester stinks.

And you are the only person I've ever heard mention tobacco plants smelling. Do you even know where they are?

Don't waste my time with your ignorance.
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What? There aren't many independent cities in NoVa anyways. Besides, Alexandria is the biggest and only one even eligible for the morgan quitno publication (it only includes cities over 75k, so unfortunately, mighty cities like Manassas Park and Falls Church aren't included). Most people live in the never ending suburbia that typifies Northern Virginia.

Mcmansion.... Mcmansion..... strip mall!.... overpriced townhouse....overpriced townhouse... Mcmansion.... Strip Mall!

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^LOL. .....sterile lowrise office park....sums up NOVA.
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Although that data maybe correct, its really unfair when comparing VA cities to others across the nation, because of that fact that it limits city boundaries to small areas, usually in more fragile areas. If they included parts of Henrico County (which some parts actually have Richmond addresses), it would probably be on the same level as a Raleigh or Greensboro. I don't know who's idea was it to come up with a totally separate jurisdiction for the city, but it wasn't very smart, because it increases the divide between inner city schools and suburban schools.

I agree though on Northern Virginia, there just aren't enough independent cities there to compare with the rest of the state, but there are pockets of poverty (especially around Triangle/Quantico) there as well.
Baileys Crossroads, parts of South Arlington or NE Alexandria arent wealthy nor too safe either. Route 1 corridor is full of section 8 housing as well.
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