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Old January 29th, 2013, 06:20 PM   #121
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Old January 29th, 2013, 08:37 PM   #122
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Indeed, Narita Airport has gone way beyond what it looked like when I used it in 2005 to fly to and from Manila on a Northwest B747-400, and at the time, ANA was flying out of T2. I find the airport now to be much more spacious, comfy, and modern.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:10 PM   #123
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Still though, of the major Asian airports, I think Narita has the most basic airport. Nothing wrong with that.

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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:17 PM   #124
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Sure. I mean, it looks better than the last time I visited. It may be basic, but it has a lot of class to it.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:17 PM   #125
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Japan isnt part of Four Asian Tigers. Japan was an economic power even before them.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:18 PM   #126
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I meant to refer to Asian airports in general, have no idea why Asian Tigers came about lol

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Old March 18th, 2013, 05:23 PM   #127
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Old March 19th, 2013, 09:41 AM   #128
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Let me update you on Tokyo Airport operations:

Delta Airlines to Adjust Operational Aircraft on Los Angeles-Tokyo/Haneda Flight from 30 March 2013

The airline will swap operational aircraft on the route from an A330-200 to a Boeing 767-300ER, reducing overall capacity by 30 seats. However, the BusinessElite cabin will feature the new flat-bed seats. Schedules:

DL637 LAX1810 – 2230+1HND 76W x136
DL637 LAX1840 – 2300+1HND 76W 136

DL636 HND0030 – 1900-1LAX 76W D

Note: DL636 will be operated with the B767-300ER from 1 April 2013.

AirAsia Japan Planned Korea Service Changes from 21 June 2013

The airline will adjust operational hours on its Tokyo/Narita-Busan service, wherein the daily operation will shift from morning to afternoon/evening hours, along with flight number change. Details and schedules:

Until 20 June 2013:
JW885 NRT0830 – 1100PUS 320 D
JW884 PUS1130 – 1330NRT 320 D

From 21 June 2013:
JW889 NRT1630 – 1900PUS 320 D
JW888 PUS1925 – 2125NRT 320 456
JW888 PUS1930 – 2130NRT 320 x456

Japan Airlines Schedules Final MD90 Service on 30 March 2013

JAL on 30 March 2013 is scheduled to operate FINAL MD90 service after 17 years of service. Last flight is scheduled to be Hiroshima – Tokyo Haneda. Reservation for this final service is already sold out.

JL1614 HIJ1940 – 2055HND M90 30 March 2013

MD90 aircraft entered operation with Japan Air System (JAS) in 1996. Note that the planned MD90 final flight remains subject to change.

Scoot April/May 2013 Temporary Service Reductions

Scoot, Singapore's low-cost carrier, will temporarily reduce operations on its Singapore-Taipei-Tokyo/Narita flight by 1 weekly flight. Service will be cancelled on 23 April, 8 May, 14 May, and 21 May 2013 (Overall operation reduces from daily to 6 weekly during certain periods).

Malaysia Airlines, American Airlines to Launch Codesharing Services from 25 March 2013

The two airlines will launch reciprocal codeshare services, initially on flights between the United States and Malaysia via Europe and/or Asia. Reservations for the codeshare services are now available.

Malaysia Airlines operated by American Airlines (MH9391 – 9430 Series):

Tokyo Narita – Chicago O’Hare
Tokyo Narita – Dallas/Ft. Worth

Singapore Airlines August 2013 Tokyo Service Changes

From 9 to 17 August 2013, Singapore Airlines will swap operational aircraft on its Singapore-Tokyo/Narita service.

SQ636/637 Airbus A380 replaces Boeing 777-300ER (SQ637 operates with A380 from 10AUG13 to 18AUG13; Overall 2 daily A380 service)

Jetstar Japan Operation Changes from 11 June 2013

The airline has recently launched its latest revision to its Summer 2013 schedules, in which it will increase operations to several routes and the introduction of Matsuyama service. Details and schedules:

Tokyo Narita – Matsuyama:
1 daily from 11 June 2013 (3 daily from 25 July 2013)

GK171 NRT0805 – 0945MYJ 320 D
GK175 NRT1210 – 1350MYJ 320 D
GK179 NRT1800 – 1950MYJ 320 D

GK170 MYJ1015 – 1150NRT 320 D
GK174 MYJ1420 – 1555NRT 320 D
GK178 MYJ2025 – 2200NRT 320 D

Revised changes, effective 20 June 2013 (peak season schedules operate from 20 June to 1 September 2013):

Tokyo/Narita – Fukuoka:
Service increases from 3 to 6 daily

Tokyo/Narita – Oita:
Service increases from 2 to 3 daily

Tokyo/Narita – Okinawa:
Service increases from 3 to 5 daily

Tokyo/Narita – Osaka/Kansai:
Service reduces from 3 to 2 daily (1 daily until 19 June 2013)

New route and frequency remains unchanged (frequencies effective from 20 June to 1 September 2013):

Tokyo/Narita – Kagoshima:
Effective 31 May 2013, 2 daily (1 daily until 19 June 2013)

Following planned service increase remains unchanged (peak season service from 20 June 2013):

Tokyo/Narita – Sapporo/Chitose:
Increases from 3 to 6 daily

China Southern Summer 2013 International Operation Updates as of 18 March 2013

Guangzhou – Tokyo/Narita:
Boeing 737-800 continues to operate daily service

Air China Summer 2013 International Operation Updates as of 18 March 2013

The airline's operations to Tokyo/Narita will continue to see narrow-body aircraft operating, which has been in effect since October 2012.

Beijing – Tokyo Narita:
Effective 31 March 2013, CA167/168 operated with Boeing 737-800 instead of previously planned A321, 4 weekly service (Overall remains 18 weekly)

Shanghai Pu Dong – Tokyo Narita:
Effective 31 March 2013, CA919/920 operated with Airbus A321 instead of previously planned A320, daily service (Overall remains 3 daily)

Delta Airlines to Mount Fifth Daily Guam-Tokyo/Narita Flight for Summer 2013

As per 18 March 2013 GDS timetable and inventory display, DELTA from 27 July to 23 September 2013 is adding a 5th daily Tokyo Narita – Guam service, on board Boeing 757 aircraft. The Skyteam member during the same period in 2012 operated 4 daily flights. Schedules: (new flights in bold)

DL606 NRT0905 – 1350GUM 752 D
DL290 NRT0925 – 1410GUM 752 D
DL648 NRT1010 – 1500GUM 752 D
DL633 NRT1945 – 0035+1GUM 752 D
DL096 NRT1955 – 0045+1GUM 752 D

DL634 GUM0530 – 0815NRT 752 D
DL097 GUM1025 – 1315NRT 752 D
DL605 GUM1525 – 1825NRT 752 x345
DL605 GUM1530 – 1830NRT 752 345

DL289 GUM1545 – 1845NRT 752 D
DL649 GUM1605 – 1905NRT 752 D
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Old September 8th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #129
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It's time to revive this topic, now that Tokyo has been awarded the 2020 Summer Olympics.

A couple of questions:

1. Will they expand the International Terminal facilities at Haneda to handle the expect crush of foreign visitors during the Olympics?

2. Will they finally take the land necessary by 2017 to upgrade all the runways at Narita to accept the biggest planes? That will be very necessary if we see a lot of A380 traffic from Europe during the time of the Olympics.

3. Will there be expansion of International terminal facilities at Kansai International Airport and Chūbu Centrair International Airport so foreign visitors can arrive at this airport and then take the Shinkansen train to Tokyo?
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It's time to revive this topic, now that Tokyo has been awarded the 2020 Summer Olympics.

A couple of questions:

1. Will they expand the International Terminal facilities at Haneda to handle the expect crush of foreign visitors during the Olympics?

2. Will they finally take the land necessary by 2017 to upgrade all the runways at Narita to accept the biggest planes? That will be very necessary if we see a lot of A380 traffic from Europe during the time of the Olympics.

3. Will there be expansion of International terminal facilities at Kansai International Airport and Chūbu Centrair International Airport so foreign visitors can arrive at this airport and then take the Shinkansen train to Tokyo?
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And just to add one more -are there any plans to upgrade Haneda International so it can take Airbus A380s, and become an airport on par with Narita?
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Old September 8th, 2013, 10:10 PM   #131
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An expansion of the International Terminal is already in the making, there will be 8 new gates that should already open next year. Maybe there will be a bigger expansion before 2020, there are also plans for a new runway which could be accelerated because of the Olympics.

The situation in Narita is different, they can't just accelerate the land acquisition procedures. Maybe they will just come up with even more money to buy out the last land owners. But this is probably something that will only be resulted when the landowners die, I don't know how old they are.

I doubt that any other airports will be upgraded for the Olympics, there will be plenty of capacity at the Tokyo airports. And there will probably also be a reduction in regular passenger numbers, just like what happened at the London airports last year.
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Judging by the lack of response to my inquiry, is it safe to assume then that Haneda handles A380s on a regular basis?
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Old September 9th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #133
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It seems that Royal Air Maroc will come until end of 2014.

Waiting for our 787 Dreamliner (2nd generation not the 1st).

Any news from Japan ?

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Nouvelles destinations en 2013-2014

À partir du 20 mars 2013, Royal Air Maroc a commencé à desservir de nouvelles destinations au départ de son hub Casablanca annoncées le 12 février 2011 lors d'une réunion organisée par le PDG de la compagnie, Driss Benhima.

La compagnie a émis le désir de desservir l'Afrique de l'Est, région dans laquelle est elle absente actuellement. Effectivement, le Soudan, l'Éthiopie, la Tanzanie, le Mozambique, le Zimbabwe ou encore la Zambie sont des pays qui recèlent d'opportunités, la compagnie aurait tout à y gagner en les desservant.

Les nouvelles destinations prévues pour les années à venir seront :


Amérique

Drapeau des États-Unis États-Unis, Washington
Drapeau du Brésil Brésil, Rio De Janeiro

Afrique

Drapeau : Kenya Kenya, Nairobi (décembre 2013)
Drapeau d’Éthiopie Éthiopie, Addis-Abeba
Drapeau du Soudan Soudan, Khartoum
Drapeau du Tchad Tchad, N'djamena (commence 22 décembre 2013)

Asie

Drapeau de la République populaire de Chine Chine, Pékin
Drapeau de la République populaire de Chine Chine, Shanghai
Drapeau de la Corée Corée, Séoul
Drapeau du Japon Japon, Tokyo

Europe

Drapeau de l'Autriche Autriche, Vienne (2014)
Drapeau de l'AllemagneAllemagne, Cologne (2014)
Drapeau de l'AllemagneAllemagne, Hambourg (2014)
Drapeau de la Bulgarie Bulgarie, Sofia (2014)
Drapeau de la Grèce Grèce, Athènes (2014)
Drapeau : Roumanie Roumanie, Bucarest (2014)
Drapeau de l'Espagne Espagne, Ténérife (commence 29 octobre 2013)
Drapeau de la HongrieHongrie, Budapest (2014)
Drapeau de la Pologne Pologne, Varsovie (2014)
Drapeau du Portugal Portugal, Porto (2014)
Drapeau de la République tchèque République tchèque, Prague (commence 17 février 2014)
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The situation in Narita is different, they can't just accelerate the land acquisition procedures. Maybe they will just come up with even more money to buy out the last land owners. But this is probably something that will only be resulted when the landowners die, I don't know how old they are.
I was reading all about the Narita fiasco last night and how difficult it has been ever since to accomplish any major construction projects at the airport. Given the willingness now to continue expanding HND, forward movement on the Chuo Shinkansen, and new aircraft generations having the economics to bypass NRT stopovers, what are the actual long-term prospects of NRT? If more and more traffic into Japan is O&D, who is going to want to go to NRT?
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So are there any plans for any regular A380 service at Haneda?
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There are currently no actual & planned A380 routes to Haneda. The airport is ready to handle the plane, but no airline has any plans. Even Skymark Airlines will use their A380s from Narita when they take delivery of their 1st one next year.

The future of Narita is still sound. Haneda is already the biggest airport with predominantly domestic flights, it simply cannot handle all the international passengers that are now coming into Narita. The Chuo Shinkansen won't reduce the domestic passenger numbers since it won't connect Tokyo with Sapporo, Fukuoka & Okinawa. And more connecting international passenger to and from other Japanese cities will compensate for a reduction of domestic air passengers between Tokyo and Osaka.

But Narita is already anticipating a shift from flights towards Haneda. They have lowered the landing fees and they will open a LCC terminal in 2015. The connections between the airport will also be improved with the planned direct connection between the Keisei Narita Airport Line and the Keikyū Airport Line into Haneda that will give the airport fast direct access into Tokyo Station and Shinagawa Station which will be the terminus of the Chuo Shinkansen.

Narita won't become redundant and many airlines will keep on flying into the airport for years to come.
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It seems that Royal Air Maroc will come until end of 2014.

Waiting for our 787 Dreamliner (2nd generation not the 1st).

Any news from Japan ?
BTW wheres the source for this?

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There are currently no actual & planned A380 routes to Haneda. The airport is ready to handle the plane, but no airline has any plans. Even Skymark Airlines will use their A380s from Narita when they take delivery of their 1st one next year.

The future of Narita is still sound. Haneda is already the biggest airport with predominantly domestic flights, it simply cannot handle all the international passengers that are now coming into Narita. The Chuo Shinkansen won't reduce the domestic passenger numbers since it won't connect Tokyo with Sapporo, Fukuoka & Okinawa. And more connecting international passenger to and from other Japanese cities will compensate for a reduction of domestic air passengers between Tokyo and Osaka.

But Narita is already anticipating a shift from flights towards Haneda. They have lowered the landing fees and they will open a LCC terminal in 2015. The connections between the airport will also be improved with the planned direct connection between the Keisei Narita Airport Line and the Keikyū Airport Line into Haneda that will give the airport fast direct access into Tokyo Station and Shinagawa Station which will be the terminus of the Chuo Shinkansen.

Narita won't become redundant and many airlines will keep on flying into the airport for years to come.
It is my understanding that Japanese government will not allow A380 in to Haneda. Otherwise KE will be flying A380 there already, from ICN. KE wants more capacity from Haneda to connect from ICN.
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Waiting for our 787 Dreamliner (2nd generation not the 1st).

Any news from Japan ?
That will be a very interesting development... I don't know, though, if the 787 can actually do a nonstop as long as CMN–NRT. I mean, that would be much longer than some of its longest nonstop flights already, most especially NRT–ATL and NRT–JFK. Perhaps a stopover somewhere along the way might make this flight less daunting (unless AT can make this service comfortable and relaxing for its passengers, especially this will be a very long haul flight on its own).
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That will be a very interesting development... I don't know, though, if the 787 can actually do a nonstop as long as CMN–NRT. I mean, that would be much longer than some of its longest nonstop flights already, most especially NRT–ATL and NRT–JFK. Perhaps a stopover somewhere along the way might make this flight less daunting (unless AT can make this service comfortable and relaxing for its passengers, especially this will be a very long haul flight on its own).
A330 can do Seoul-Madrid nonstop, I cant imagine CMN-NArita is that much longer.
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BTW wheres the source for this?
A lot of newspapers deals about that for about 2 years now for China and 1 year for Tokyo.

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September 25th, 2012,




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That will be a very interesting development... I don't know, though, if the 787 can actually do a nonstop as long as CMN–NRT. I mean, that would be much longer than some of its longest nonstop flights already, most especially NRT–ATL and NRT–JFK. Perhaps a stopover somewhere along the way might make this flight less daunting (unless AT can make this service comfortable and relaxing for its passengers, especially this will be a very long haul flight on its own).
Some months ago I said (I'm not expert) that a Casablanca-Tokyo could be done with 767-300ER of RAM (3) if the MTOW is limited.



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La RAM a en longs-courriers :

- 1 747-400
- 4 737-300 ER


Le 767 est également opéré sur des longs moyens courrier de type :
- Casa-Montréal (5 vols/semaine)
- Casa-New York (6 vols/semaine)
- Casa-Jeddah (4 vols/semaine,mais pas Ryad)

Mais aussi des moyens-courriers à forte demande :
- Casa-Paris,
- Casa-Londres (parfois)


Le 767-300ER a une autonomie a pleine charge de 11065km qui permet de joindre :
- Rio et Sao Paulo (7600km environ)
- Pekin (10 000km)
- plus difficilemenent Shanghai (11 000km) et Tokyo (11 600) sauf si la charge est limitée
, car il faut aussi tenir compte du plan de route a respecté, des vents ...

Certains parlent d'acquérir des 777 à cause des problèmes de livraison du 787, mais il coute bien plus cher (à l'achat ou en location) que le 767 et offre une capacité peut-être trop supérieure à nos besoins. Le 767 présente l'avantage d'être connu des pilotes de la RAM qui sont déjà qualifiés dessus.

- 767-300ER : 182,8 M$
- 777
: Coût unitaire
244 700 000 $1 (777-200ER)
275 800 000 $1 (777-200LR)
298 300 000 $1 (777-300ER)


http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767




http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777




Pourquoi ne pas louer 1 ou 2 767 pour ouvrir les nouvelles lignes dédiées, ou même rationalisé l'emploi du 767 au seul longs courriers ?

Sinon il y a le seul 747 mais qui est aussi utilisé pour le haj. Ca complique la programmation des vols. On a récement parlé d'un 747 pris en location, des précisions dessus ?

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RAM has long-haul:

- 1 747-400
- 4 737-300 ER

The 767 is also operated on long letter type means:
- Casa Montreal (5 flights / week)
- Casa-New York (6 flights / week)
- Casa-Jeddah (4 flights / week, but not Ryad)

But also medium-haul high demand:
- Casa Paris,
- Casa London (sometimes)


The 767-300ER has a range of 11065km with full loads that can reach:
- Rio and Sao Paulo (about 7600km)
- Beijing (10 000km)
- More difficult Shanghai (11 000km) and Tokyo (11,600) unless the load is limited because it must also account for the road map, wind ...


Some speak to acquire 777 because of delivery problems 787, but it costs much more expensive (to purchase or lease) and the 767 has a capacity may be too superior to our needs. The 767 has the advantage of being experienced RAM pilots already qualified on.

- 767-300ER $ 182.8 million
- 777: Unit Cost
244 700 000 $ 1 (777-200ER)
000 $ 1 275 800 (777-200LR)
298 300 000 $ 1 (777-300ER)



http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767




http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777



Why not hire one or 2767 to open new dedicated lines, or even rationalized the use of only 767 long-haul?

Otherwise there is only 747 but is also used for the haj. It complicates scheduling. We talked récement a 747 leased, details above?

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