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Old September 10th, 2013, 10:44 PM   #141
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An empty 767-300ER could indeed fly Casablanca - Tokyo if all conditions are perfect, but it's simply not possible to use that plane on a normal scheduled service. You always have to deduct a bit from the maximum range with load that the manufactures give, there are always limiting factors. For the current 787s it's going to be right on the maximum limit that it could fly without any weight penalties. The improved engines that will be introduced together with the 787-9 will already give it a bit more range.
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Old September 10th, 2013, 11:00 PM   #142
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Right, hence my concerns because that flight would be incredibly long... I wonder if that could compete among the world's longest nonstop flights should it be fully established, or will there be a stopover along the way in China to break up the very long service?
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There are enough routes that are considerably longer. Common routes like the Middle East - Australia, Middle East - West Coast USA & Australia - West Coast USA are a fair bit longer then Casablanca - Tokyo Narita.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 12:19 AM   #144
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It seems that Royal Air Maroc will come until end of 2014.

Waiting for our 787 Dreamliner (2nd generation not the 1st).

Any news from Japan ?
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There are enough routes that are considerably longer. Common routes like the Middle East - Australia, Middle East - West Coast USA & Australia - West Coast USA are a fair bit longer then Casablanca - Tokyo Narita.
True. But, I wonder if a 787 can actually fly that far, especially it's like between the northwest coast of Africa and northeast Asia... I know that the 77W can fly so far that I think it makes much more sense than a 787, but, I'll glance through the 787's range and determine how far it can reach from Tokyo and Casablanca.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 12:27 AM   #145
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So I checked on Casablanca–Tokyo, and the distance is at 7,201nm (11589km), which is perfect for Royal Air Maroc's 787 service, with a few hundred more miles to spare (max range of 7,650 to 8,200nm). I'd say that despite the long flight, with the mood lighting, passengers on this flight can end up getting relaxed on board.
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Old September 14th, 2013, 05:27 PM   #146
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BTW wheres the source for this?


It is my understanding that Japanese government will not allow A380 in to Haneda. Otherwise KE will be flying A380 there already, from ICN. KE wants more capacity from Haneda to connect from ICN.
I'm sorry, but what does KE stand for? Korean Air? And is ICN a stand-in for Incheon Int'l Airport?
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Yes, correct.

I always encourage people to use the full names of cities/airports & airlines. This is not a strictly aviation forum, so not everyone is familiar with the official abbreviations. Using full names makes reading posts easier for everyone.
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Old September 16th, 2013, 09:54 AM   #148
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I have a question regarding Haneda: since the Japanese government has allocated up to 400 weekly flights to the Philippines, up from 119, I wonder how crowded the international terminal for Haneda is at the moment because Japan has given 14 weekly flights between Manila and Tokyo/Haneda, giving Filipino residents living in Tokyo a much quicker access to the Philippines by flying out of Haneda rather than backtracking to Narita...? And by the way, what kinds of flight combinations can be done to maximize transfer opportunities for Filipino travelers... I was thinking of either:

- midday arrival and afternoon departure for transfers to and from Japanese flights; or
- evening arrival and red-eye departure for transfers to and from Transpacific flights
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Old September 16th, 2013, 12:30 PM   #149
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From tunisian forum Syphax Airlines | Official Thread

Syphax is an ambitious company, which entend to shake the historic Tunisair. The base in in Sfax (2nd largest city) but intercontinental flights will part from Tunis.

1 weekly flight between Tunis and Tokyo

This is a network for the next 5 years. The 1st A330 has been received. The company habs been founded in 2011. So this is maybe for 2014 or 2015.

Strange that nobody notice this information.



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Old September 16th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #150
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I have a question regarding Haneda: since the Japanese government has allocated up to 400 weekly flights to the Philippines, up from 119, I wonder how crowded the international terminal for Haneda is at the moment because Japan has given 14 weekly flights between Manila and Tokyo/Haneda, giving Filipino residents living in Tokyo a much quicker access to the Philippines by flying out of Haneda rather than backtracking to Narita...? And by the way, what kinds of flight combinations can be done to maximize transfer opportunities for Filipino travelers... I was thinking of either:

- midday arrival and afternoon departure for transfers to and from Japanese flights; or
- evening arrival and red-eye departure for transfers to and from Transpacific flights
Do the increase in flights refer to Philippines<->Haneda airport?

Or just simply Philippines<->Japan in general?
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Old September 16th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #151
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Do the increase in flights refer to Philippines<->Haneda airport?

Or just simply Philippines<->Japan in general?
It's the latter, with Japan allocating 14 weekly rotations between Manila and Tokyo-Haneda.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #152
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And then, there's this suggestion:

Tokyo governor eyes Yokota Air Base for civilian flights during 2020 Olympics

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TOKYO — Tokyo Governor Naoki Inose has made public comments again putting pressure on the U.S. military to allow civilian commercial airlines to use U.S. Yokota Air Base, to cope with increased air traffic expected in the run up to the 2020 Olympics.

In comments made on a TV chat show on the subject of preparing Japan’s transport infrastructure for the increased traffic, Inose said, “It’s an American military base, so if we are able to use it, there won’t be any construction costs,” Sankei Shimbun reported.
Absolutely, positively NO. Not only do you have to build temporary Customs and Immigration facilities at Yokota AB, but getting back into central Tokyo means taking a train on the Chūō Main Line between Tachikawa and Shinjuku Stations, a rail line notorious for overcrowding during commute hours.

I'd rather have JR Central run more Shinkansen trains between Shin-Osaka and Tokyo Stations so foreigners visiting the Olympics can arrive at Kansai International Airport near Osaka or Chūbu Centrair International Airport near Nagoya and then take the Shinkansen to get to Tokyo.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 12:18 AM   #153
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Absolutely, positively NO. Not only do you have to build temporary Customs and Immigration facilities at Yokota AB, but getting back into central Tokyo means taking a train on the Chūō Main Line between Tachikawa and Shinjuku Stations, a rail line notorious for overcrowding during commute hours.

I'd rather have JR Central run more Shinkansen trains between Shin-Osaka and Tokyo Stations so foreigners visiting the Olympics can arrive at Kansai International Airport near Osaka or Chūbu Centrair International Airport near Nagoya and then take the Shinkansen to get to Tokyo.
Absolutely right. I don't have the data to hand, but KIX and NGO must have quite a lot of spare capacity.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 08:55 AM   #154
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Lol, run more Shinkansen.

Do you have any idea why JR Central is building a completely new maglev line. The Shinkansen is also crowded during rush hours, plus you have to take another crowded train from the airports to the Shinkansen.

If Yokota is going to be used there will be a temporary immigration, but knowing Japanese construction that will mean that it's not going to look and feel temporary.

And it will most certainly have a night curfew, if they extend that long enough the planes could only be landing from lets say 8:00. Those passengers won't be at Haijima Station station after 9:00, by then the rush hour this far away from Tokyo has ended. Then it's just train ride of an hour for 450 yen instead of a 4 hour trip from Kansai Airport to Tokyo for 15.000 yen.

Having to go through a 4 hour train ride with changeovers after an 11 hour plus flight is not really something that you want to put people through. And it's also not ideal for regional visitors, for them it's a longer and more expensive train ride then the actual flight.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 09:11 AM   #155
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This concept dates back from his predecessor Ishihara Shintaro, who wanted Yokota AB to be converted to a civilan or joint use airport. I say it's a fine idea- it's temporary, it can target charter flights and overflow traffic- transport to/from the airport can be handled by highway bus services, which are very good in Tokyo. The issue is whether the U.S. military will cooperate.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 10:01 AM   #156
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From tunisian forum Syphax Airlines | Official Thread

Syphax is an ambitious company, which entend to shake the historic Tunisair. The base in in Sfax (2nd largest city) but intercontinental flights will part from Tunis.

1 weekly flight between Tunis and Tokyo

This is a network for the next 5 years. The 1st A330 has been received. The company habs been founded in 2011. So this is maybe for 2014 or 2015.

Strange that nobody notice this information.
It takes airlines at least 10 years to be established enough to start flying long hauls. Long hauls cost money to start.
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Old September 20th, 2013, 04:13 PM   #157
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http://airportnews.jp/headline/1320/

September 27, I will start in service of the new walkway that connects the main building and satellite Narita International Airport (Narita, Chiba Prefecture) in the second passenger terminal building.

In moving the passenger to use the aircraft gate of the satellite, both outside of the orbit of the "yellow shuttle" that runs currently, walkway be installed separately arrival flow line for line and for triggering out. About 220 m length of about 6.5 meters, respectively, and features a moving side walk (moving walkways). Want to be able to see up close such as aircraft to adopt a design with a feeling of opening with a reduced window frames and pillars, the tarmac is also moving.

"Yellow shuttle" to end the operation at the same time as the start of the passage-service. The shuttle since the opening of the building in 1992, access was the only passenger to move to the satellite, the transport system of unattended operation of the wire traction system. "It was state-of-the-art airport first opened the world at that time" mechanism for traveling floated from orbit vehicle by compressed air (the airport officials). About 20,000 people a day using, but, it is said to have had a demand for improvement, such as waiting time in getting on and off sites. Opening of the passage, which corresponds to a further increase in passenger due to volume expansion of the airport. Such as tenant occupancy is planned trajectory of the "ruins".

In service start 6:00 the same day.
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When Narita Airport was being developed during the 1970s, some land was contriversially being expropriated for its terminals and its runways. Several of the holdouts (ones that weren't expropriated for airport development like farms, houses, and even a cemetery) remain at the airport land today.

It is a shame that Narita's other runways and taxiways can't be finished or fixed, especially now that Tokyo has been elected to host the 2020 Summer Olympics. But what would happen if Haneda Airport were fully built out?; Would we have to expand Narita Airport somehow? If so, it would be an extremely difficult process.

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Jetstar to launch Tokyo to Melbourne next year, April.

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From the Japanese Airports / Air Travel 日本の空港 thread, an update on Haneda Airport's international terminal

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Images of the newly expanded Haneda Airport International Terminal

Expansion includes:
- 8 new contact gates, bringing the total to 18 gates.
- 5 new bus gates (remote parking positions), now a total of 9 bus gates.
- An increase in floor space from 159,000m2 to 236,000m2 (approximately 1.5 times the original size)
- Increase in the number of check-in desks from 96 (4 islands) to 144 (6 islands)
- A new security check area
- A new 313 room transit hotel “Royal Park Hotel THE HANEDA” (17 rooms are located within the terminal)
- Various new shops and restaurants.
- The number of daily flights has increased to about 80 flights.
- Double the number of daytime international departure and arrival slots from 30,000 to 60,000.
- Number of destinations increased from 17 cities in 13 countries to 25 cities in 17 countries.
- New destinations: Ho Chi Minh City (SGN), Hanoi (HAN), Manila (MNL), Munich (MUC), Vancouver (YVR) and Jakarta (CGK) as well as Doha (DOH) in June 2014 and Toronto (YYZ) in July 2014.
- Four new airport lounges: TIAT Sky Lounge A and B, ANA Lounge and ANA Suite Lounge, Japan Airlines Sakura Lounge and Cathay Pacific Lounge.



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