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Old February 9th, 2012, 12:43 AM   #41
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Old February 9th, 2012, 01:34 AM   #42
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I understand the concern of anyone living in Evans Street, this would see a lot of new and noisy vehicle movements.

If you can't make the Thursday night meeting I understand there is a supplementary meeting on Sunday in the Vertical Villages Community Room in Newbank Tower. Guess either VV or Bridgewater Residents Association would have more details and would definitely want to hear of all concerns.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 03:33 PM   #43
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I have the pre-application meeting document on my desk after a visit to one of the developers.

I have lots of concerns but will air them privately first and see where I get!
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Old February 9th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #44
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I think the meeting tonight was very balanced, clear concern from residents on Evans St and from Springfield Court.

Vehicle movements, noise, looking at a loading bay, light spill from the roof lantern, traffic and pedestrian conflicts on Trinity Way, lack of public transport access, dislike of potential 24 hour opening, how the scheme, operator and design could all change after people thought they knew what they were getting.

On the plus side, I thought the actual supermarket building looked very interesting and what certainly change the feel of the area. Will need to fiddle about to try and get some camera phone pictures on line.

I hope you make some progress with your questions. One argument I heard raised by some residents was that this might be a least worst outcome. If this scheme falls through then it seems clear that the land will be built on, it's a prime site, but the next plan could be for a massive block of flats or a big "White box" supermarket.

The most- interested supermarket is Asda, but wheels turn slowly and that's not guaranteed.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 09:59 AM   #45
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Springfield Lane Proposal Images

Bit blurry from camera phone but give some idea of the proposal. Shows the sloping wildflower roof and the northlight tower and the proximity to Evans St and Springfield Court residential properties.









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Old February 10th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #46
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I'm not entirely convinced it's a great move. By facing away from Trinity Way the store forces people to drive to it, which is going to increase congestion on the inner ring road. I think if we're going to let supermarkets build this close to the city centre then we should be asking them to change the way they have their shops configured to respond to the needs of the city centre, rather than attempting to change the street pattern to suit them.

But then I'm not convinced of the value of central supermarkets anyway.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 12:17 PM   #47
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Excellent photos/info you've got us there Trinityboy!

I can understand the concerns of the Evans st residents, with the entrance to the store's car park and loading bay directly behind their houses. I hope they push for an acoustic living fence between the road and their little access road, alongside the trees. It'll probably receive half a dozen deliveries a day, with half being refridgerated and most of the articulated lorries.

I don't think the residents should be too worried about the 24 hour opening, I doubt the noise from the few cars entering the site will be much compared to the levels coming from Trinity Way and stores like this are staffed through the night anyhow and the refridgeration plant will be running whether or not the store is open.

What the residents should push for is a restriction on night-time deliveries, hardly an unfair condition considering the proximity of the service yard to residential homes. Another thing is to push for the store entrance to face the car park so the noise and commotion of shoppers and their trolleys is away from their homes too.

And Che, I don't think any amount of reorientation is going to make up for it being the wrong side of the busy fast moving pedestrian unfriendly part of Trinity Way!

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Old February 10th, 2012, 12:32 PM   #48
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True enough Iheart. What I really mean is that large supermarkets in the inner city should not just be large supermarkets from the suburbs in a grass hat. If they can't fit into the streets/generate wider economic activity and support pedestrian/public transport access then they shouldn't be building them.

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Old February 10th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #49
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The entrance to the store will be approx 30 metres from my door.

The original competition design and revisions had the store facing the river and has now flipped towards Trinity Way, thus causing masses of noise and light pollution facing Evans & Springfield Court.

As for that Orchard roof... attracts bees, birds and biodiversity. Which Sh*t on cars... I'm sure Asda wouldn't be happy with that.

There are tons of points I have brought up but need to speak to my neighbours first as Councillor Ord can't get involved due to him living on Evans Street.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 04:36 PM   #50
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How many councillors do you have in your ward? 2 or 3?
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Old April 19th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #51
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The planning application went in to Salford Council on the 10th April.

http://publicaccess.salford.gov.uk/p...=M298B1NP5Y000

This has the plans and diagrams (large 10MBish file):
http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/Ani...s/08814927.pdf

No real changes to the draft plans I've previously seen, will be interesting to see if people in Evans Street and Springfield Court feel that any mitigation is in place.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 08:10 PM   #52
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Thanks trinity, a few snippets from the documents.





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Old April 19th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #53
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Must admit it goes well in that bend of the river, at least in autumn colours.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #54
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Cheers guys. So it's an ASDA (design & access statement) and they're going to mar all that lovely design with their branding.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #55
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Cheers guys. So it's an ASDA (design & access statement) and they're going to mar all that lovely design with their branding.
At least it will be green to match the leaves. I love how they will have the flock of doves above Strangeways

Seriously though, this actually looks like it might be alright. It fills a scruffy patch of land that looked doomed to be undeveloped for a decade and adds a pleasing, tree-lined riverside walkway. Thumbs up. Though as always, it will be better judged when complete (cop out!)
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Old April 19th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #56
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and adds a pleasing, tree-lined riverside walkway. Thumbs up. [SIZE="1"]
to be fair they have sorted the riverside walkway out recently, it's alright
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Old April 19th, 2012, 11:58 PM   #57
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to be fair they have sorted the riverside walkway out recently, it's alright
Yes, lot of work been done. If this comes off it will hopefully bring a lot of footfall, life and supervision to the area so it will get safer and remain well maintained.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 11:07 AM   #58
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Urban Splash JV plans Salford supermarket scheme

26th April 2012

By Mike Fahy - Assistant Editor

URBAN Splash is planning to develop a supermarket-led redevelopment scheme with 40 homes and a car park fronting Trinity Way in Salford.

The development at Springfield Lane is a joint venture with Salford-based SiSi Investments, which is run by developers Paul Simon and Simon Gould, who have stakes in various property companies including site assembly specialist Bowsall.

The scheme has been designed by Manchester-based architect Ian Simpson.
The joint venture partners have not disclosed who the likely operator of the 28,000 sq ft supermarket will be, but it is understood that they have been in talks with Asda over the scheme.

The supermarket and associated car park containing 230 spaces will face Trinity Way and will be covered by a huge wildflower meadow roof, which will create a natural habitat for birds and insects as well as absorbing rainwater, carbon dioxide and help to insulate the building.

The homes are being built to six different house styles, with one four-storey property sitting on top of a three-storey house forming a "turret" at the entrance to the street, which will sit behind the foodstore.

An apartment building containing eight properties will sit on the other side of the street, ehicvh wwill contain six different house styles.

The plans have already been through several months of consultation with local residents, which led to significant changes being made to the layout of both the supermarket and the street, which borders the Irwell and the propeosed River Irwell City Park walkways.

The scheme is likely to be heard by Salford City Council's planning committee next month.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 07:39 PM   #59
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Springfield Lane: Forget Beaches, Here’s The Lawn

Jill Burdett on the how one leap of imagination has been replaced by another

So Salford or Manchester is not to get its beach.

It’s getting a supermarket instead.

Back in 2004 Urban Splash launched a design competition for a scoop of land bounded by Springfield Lane and the River Irwell just off Trinity Way. This is a five minute walk from the Manchester Arena, seven from Victoria Station and ten from Harvey Nichols.

One of the designs included a beach and MEN reporter Neil Keeling was duly dispatched to have a look and pose in a deck chair with his trousers rolled up - click here. As you do on a beach.

That design, by Weston Williamson, also included 450 new apartments and won the £20,000 RIBA organised competition. Cue lots of bucket and spade headlines.

But the scheme never got started and was never likely to given the banking crisis so the area, once used for various industrial processes was tidied up and nature took over and it has become a little patch of welcome green, with, ironically a crescent of sand. (There’s an amusing, little video here)

Now a new application has gone in, this time designed by Ian Simpson Architects, for a supermarket led development.

Thankfully it doesn’t look like your average supermarket and is topped by a wildflower meadow roof that looks very pretty in all the pictures.

But its big, 28,000sqft ,and people already living on Springfield Lane are concerned about deliveries 24/7 never mind the shoppers.

The plan also includes 40 new properties, mainly three and four storey townhouses but also a block of eight apartments. The houses will front the river.

This time Urban Splash has teamed up with Salford based SiSi investments, run by developers Paul Simon and Simon Gould.

And it is understood that ASDA has already shown some interest in being the operator.

This could throw a spanner in the works of plans for a similar sized supermarket not too far away at New Broughon. The plan had been to demolish Mocha Parade and re-use the site for a bigger supermarket to serve the whole area. ASDA has been mentioned here too.

It also caused some consternation to the officers drawing up Manchester’s supermarket strategy, in a report to the executive last month.

It had to revise its description of Springfield Lane from 'recreational land' to 'brownfield site' and says: 'The study should also remove any reference to the deliverability of the site being affected by its current informal recreational use.'

The city has earmarked Central Park and First Street as the sites it wants for two new big supermarkets – ruling out Boddingtons which is just across from Springfield Lane saying that is the wrong location.

The application is likely to be heard by Salford City Council's planning committee this month.
http://www.manchesterconfidential.co...Heres-The-Lawn[/quote]

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Old May 9th, 2012, 05:22 PM   #60
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May have already been posted?

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