Sydney :ASPECT Tower -43st/150m/res (Part 1) - Page 8

Fabian · March 21st, 2003, 02:22 AM

Explains why the council doesn't want this tower in the first place. Well good luck in their battle.

spazpecker · March 21st, 2003, 07:21 AM

I walked past Aspect today and took this pic. Lots of people in and around the building when I was there including about 5 cars/vans from an engineering company and 2 'City of Sydney' marked vehicles.
The bloke in the sales office said it will start in April.
There is a fully fitted our apartment in the showroom which looks very nice !!

CULWULLA · March 26th, 2003, 11:25 AM

wel, theres been a rather big design change yet again!! The plant room structure had to be altered due to sun access plane. So the new design has "removed" the wavy structures and replaced with a steel structure with architectural spire!!
Also the podium at entrance has had a amendment also. So a new model will have to be made and should be in 2 weeks!
when this is approved by council then it will proceed!

Tony P · March 26th, 2003, 01:12 PM

Height increase?

This tower is evolving into one more palatable by myself! I started off despising the building and have slowly come around to liking it as it has progressed on paper. I never went for the 'curvey things' so I'll be interested to see what the steel structure with spire looks like.

Thanks for the news Culwulla!

CULWULLA · April 3rd, 2003, 07:38 AM

well plans have come in for Aspects new roof! its come down in height from 137m to 133m. but official height has gone from 137m to 140m due to a spire feature! i like the new design better. the wavy features are gone and its more stepped design with blade like structure with small spire at northern most part of roof! the model will be amended soon.

spazpecker · April 3rd, 2003, 07:51 AM

Cool Culwulla. Shame that this 133m tower ( to structural top) will be hard to pick down there in the depths of the southern CBD.
I always find it hard to beleive that a tower equal to the height of Santos in Adelaide is almost insignificant in the southern Sydney CBD.
If only the RL of that part of town was 20m higher !!!!!!

CULWULLA · April 3rd, 2003, 11:18 AM

well heres a sneak preview of the new top. Its hard to make it out from this 2d plan but this is west elevation. As you can see the bulk of the top floors have been reduced due to overshadowing issues. the roof is 133m.The front blade is 2m wide x 4m wide. This holds the 13m spire which extends just 3m above the 137m height / total-140m

finn · April 3rd, 2003, 02:14 PM

Looks pretty good!

Will be good to see the amended model and check-out the overall effect of the new top.

Hopefully this will be approved with no issue and we can look forward to seeing the construction get underway in the near future!

CULWULLA · April 3rd, 2003, 02:36 PM

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Looks pretty good!

Will be good to see the amended model and check-out the overall effect of the new top.

Hopefully this will be approved with no issue and we can look forward to seeing the construction get underway in the near future!</td></tr>
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yeah it should be pretty smooth sailing from now and they should get official ok this month so maybe May we will see some action!

CULWULLA · May 12th, 2003, 04:44 AM

Well not so fast! GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS!!!
The new design has had some issues with sun height plane, so they have had to redesign roof again!!! the back section of southern side of plantroom cuts thru height plane, so they have to redesign this to fit under height contral plane. This shouldnt take long and good news is the front section of the plant room can go up further in height and spire also. So maybe up from 140m to 150m+. we will have to see in next couple of weeks.
Apparently if the architects didnt change upper floors of the already approved DA, it would of been UC by now!!!
ah well they learn from there mistakes!
ill let you know when new design comes in!!

Fabian · May 12th, 2003, 10:46 PM

Another model on the way I guess. I don't think there is a point of me getting a shot of this one.

CULWULLA · May 13th, 2003, 12:44 AM

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no just top plant room has to be completely replaced with more angled structure! when i told them that the spire could go higher they seemed interested!!!!

the model will be amended soon.

CULWULLA · May 28th, 2003, 03:28 AM

well new design has come in. its nowhigher by 2m!!-now 142m to spire! .They have had to reduce each floor by 50mm to keep same amount of floors to abide by sun plane.
flloor to floor now 2.950m intead of 3.000m floors. this should get going soon and construction should start soon as approval has been granted!

hk-star · May 28th, 2003, 04:48 AM

They've "had to reduce each floor by 50mm to keep same amount of floors to abide by sun plane"????

Now if that isn't just the most useless, beaureucratic, inflexible "got-to-use-this-red-tape-somewhere" attitude ..

I know it's not you culwulla but seriously, what the hell difference is 5cm a floor going to make to anything? It's obviously just to comply "to the letter" in some stupid local ordnance. Thank god the developer isn't giving up and is just steadfastedly meeting even the most discouraging demands .. I can just imagine the much-harrassed developer's eyes turning skyward when he heard the news about the 5cm per floor reduction!

thanks for the updates everyone!

hk

CULWULLA · June 2nd, 2003, 02:28 PM

hk-star, the measley 5cm per floor =totalled 3m over its full height which will give it approval!!!

heres a sneak peek at the new top! this is the west elevation. Notice the slant from spire to rear of bldg! this is the reason why it had to be redesigned!!! you can see the cut offs on plantroom ect. The new amendments wil go thru soon and construction will finally commence!!

Muse · June 2nd, 2003, 06:04 PM

This is what the Aspect sales office last told me in reagrd to the modifications -

The architects have done away with the waves @ the top, just above the Quest Serviced Apartments
& also the lower 3 side ribbings on the northenly aspect seen here in the original rendering:

Fabian · June 2nd, 2003, 10:07 PM

The model is being adjusted for these changes isn't it?

CULWULLA · June 3rd, 2003, 12:50 AM

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well of course! the modeel will have to be completely rebuilt, due to all floors being reduced in height. plus many changes at top! it should be done within this month!

Fabian · June 3rd, 2003, 08:13 AM

You must hate rebuilding models.

Also it's turning into an ever ending sage regarding the design and the conflicts with councils. It has to end soon.

CULWULLA · June 3rd, 2003, 01:05 PM

I scanned these floorplans for Museumb today. The unique floor plan allows for each unit to face a northerly aspect.

ghostly image of latest elevation (spire excluded)

March 21st, 2003, 02:22 AM	#141
Fabian Sydney: World's best city Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 29,593 Likes (Received): 105	Explains why the council doesn't want this tower in the first place. Well good luck in their battle. __________________ 'Cityrail recommends that you and your family travel by bus' - Cityrail

March 26th, 2003, 11:25 AM	#143
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	wel, theres been a rather big design change yet again!! The plant room structure had to be altered due to sun access plane. So the new design has "removed" the wavy structures and replaced with a steel structure with architectural spire!! Also the podium at entrance has had a amendment also. So a new model will have to be made and should be in 2 weeks! when this is approved by council then it will proceed! __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

April 3rd, 2003, 07:38 AM	#145
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	well plans have come in for Aspects new roof! its come down in height from 137m to 133m. but official height has gone from 137m to 140m due to a spire feature! i like the new design better. the wavy features are gone and its more stepped design with blade like structure with small spire at northern most part of roof! the model will be amended soon. __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

April 3rd, 2003, 11:18 AM	#147
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	well heres a sneak preview of the new top. Its hard to make it out from this 2d plan but this is west elevation. As you can see the bulk of the top floors have been reduced due to overshadowing issues. the roof is 133m.The front blade is 2m wide x 4m wide. This holds the 13m spire which extends just 3m above the 137m height / total-140m __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

April 3rd, 2003, 02:36 PM	#149
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"> <td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by finn </i></b> </smallfont> </td> <tr><td align=left valign=top>Looks pretty good! Will be good to see the amended model and check-out the overall effect of the new top. Hopefully this will be approved with no issue and we can look forward to seeing the construction get underway in the near future!</td></tr> </table> yeah it should be pretty smooth sailing from now and they should get official ok this month so maybe May we will see some action! __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

March 21st, 2003, 07:21 AM	#142
spazpecker Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 246 Likes (Received): 0	I walked past Aspect today and took this pic. Lots of people in and around the building when I was there including about 5 cars/vans from an engineering company and 2 'City of Sydney' marked vehicles. The bloke in the sales office said it will start in April. There is a fully fitted our apartment in the showroom which looks very nice !!

March 26th, 2003, 01:12 PM	#144
Tony P All the way with PJK Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 965 Likes (Received): 2	Height increase? This tower is evolving into one more palatable by myself! I started off despising the building and have slowly come around to liking it as it has progressed on paper. I never went for the 'curvey things' so I'll be interested to see what the steel structure with spire looks like. Thanks for the news Culwulla!

April 3rd, 2003, 07:51 AM	#146
spazpecker Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 246 Likes (Received): 0	Cool Culwulla. Shame that this 133m tower ( to structural top) will be hard to pick down there in the depths of the southern CBD. I always find it hard to beleive that a tower equal to the height of Santos in Adelaide is almost insignificant in the southern Sydney CBD. If only the RL of that part of town was 20m higher !!!!!!

April 3rd, 2003, 02:14 PM	#148
finn Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,517 Likes (Received): 33	Looks pretty good! Will be good to see the amended model and check-out the overall effect of the new top. Hopefully this will be approved with no issue and we can look forward to seeing the construction get underway in the near future!

May 12th, 2003, 04:44 AM	#150
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	Well not so fast! GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS!!! The new design has had some issues with sun height plane, so they have had to redesign roof again!!! the back section of southern side of plantroom cuts thru height plane, so they have to redesign this to fit under height contral plane. This shouldnt take long and good news is the front section of the plant room can go up further in height and spire also. So maybe up from 140m to 150m+. we will have to see in next couple of weeks. Apparently if the architects didnt change upper floors of the already approved DA, it would of been UC by now!!! ah well they learn from there mistakes! ill let you know when new design comes in!! __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

May 12th, 2003, 10:46 PM	#151
Fabian Sydney: World's best city Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 29,593 Likes (Received): 105	Another model on the way I guess. I don't think there is a point of me getting a shot of this one. __________________ 'Cityrail recommends that you and your family travel by bus' - Cityrail

May 13th, 2003, 12:44 AM	#152
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"> <td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Fabian </i></b> </smallfont> </td> <tr><td align=left valign=top>Another model on the way I guess. I don't think there is a point of me getting a shot of this one.</td></tr> </table> no just top plant room has to be completely replaced with more angled structure! when i told them that the spire could go higher they seemed interested!!!! the model will be amended soon. __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

May 28th, 2003, 03:28 AM	#153
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	well new design has come in. its nowhigher by 2m!!-now 142m to spire! .They have had to reduce each floor by 50mm to keep same amount of floors to abide by sun plane. flloor to floor now 2.950m intead of 3.000m floors. this should get going soon and construction should start soon as approval has been granted! __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

May 28th, 2003, 04:48 AM	#154
hk-star H shitai ka? Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sydney/Tokyo Posts: 71 Likes (Received): 0	They've "had to reduce each floor by 50mm to keep same amount of floors to abide by sun plane"???? Now if that isn't just the most useless, beaureucratic, inflexible "got-to-use-this-red-tape-somewhere" attitude .. I know it's not you culwulla but seriously, what the hell difference is 5cm a floor going to make to anything? It's obviously just to comply "to the letter" in some stupid local ordnance. Thank god the developer isn't giving up and is just steadfastedly meeting even the most discouraging demands .. I can just imagine the much-harrassed developer's eyes turning skyward when he heard the news about the 5cm per floor reduction! thanks for the updates everyone! hk __________________ I say we nuke the site from orbit

June 2nd, 2003, 02:28 PM	#155
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	hk-star, the measley 5cm per floor =totalled 3m over its full height which will give it approval!!! heres a sneak peek at the new top! this is the west elevation. Notice the slant from spire to rear of bldg! this is the reason why it had to be redesigned!!! you can see the cut offs on plantroom ect. The new amendments wil go thru soon and construction will finally commence!! __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

June 2nd, 2003, 06:04 PM	#156
Muse Supernature Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 8,630 Likes (Received): 7	This is what the Aspect sales office last told me in reagrd to the modifications - The architects have done away with the waves @ the top, just above the Quest Serviced Apartments & also the lower 3 side ribbings on the northenly aspect seen here in the original rendering:

June 2nd, 2003, 10:07 PM	#157
Fabian Sydney: World's best city Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 29,593 Likes (Received): 105	The model is being adjusted for these changes isn't it? __________________ 'Cityrail recommends that you and your family travel by bus' - Cityrail

June 3rd, 2003, 12:50 AM	#158
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"> <td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Fabian </i></b> </smallfont> </td> <tr><td align=left valign=top>The model is being adjusted for these changes isn't it?</td></tr> </table> well of course! the modeel will have to be completely rebuilt, due to all floors being reduced in height. plus many changes at top! it should be done within this month! __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

June 3rd, 2003, 08:13 AM	#159
Fabian Sydney: World's best city Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 29,593 Likes (Received): 105	You must hate rebuilding models. Also it's turning into an ever ending sage regarding the design and the conflicts with councils. It has to end soon. __________________ 'Cityrail recommends that you and your family travel by bus' - Cityrail

June 3rd, 2003, 01:05 PM	#160
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	I scanned these floorplans for Museumb today. The unique floor plan allows for each unit to face a northerly aspect. ghostly image of latest elevation (spire excluded) __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

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