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Old December 12th, 2005, 03:32 AM   #101
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those are some great pictures james
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Old December 13th, 2005, 01:57 AM   #102
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ARE THEY WORKING 24 HOURS ON THIS PROJECT.
Last time I was there, yes. Everything in China seems to be worked on 24-7. Tough deal when towers are erecting next door to your apartment building.
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Old December 13th, 2005, 02:51 AM   #103
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Old December 13th, 2005, 06:12 AM   #104
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That thing is absolutly massive! I love it!

Whats with the 2 storeys of pure concrete?!
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Old December 13th, 2005, 06:17 AM   #105
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It's really growing fast! Look how big it is compared to that line of buses along the street.
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Old December 13th, 2005, 06:19 AM   #106
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omg !!!! how fast !!!! great pics....im really impressed !
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Old December 13th, 2005, 08:37 AM   #107
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That thing is absolutly massive! I love it!

Whats with the 2 storeys of pure concrete?!
technical floors i suppose...
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Old December 13th, 2005, 10:30 AM   #108
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Oh! My Gosh. Shanghai makes me stunned!!!
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Old December 13th, 2005, 10:49 AM   #109
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OMG this building is so great and fast. Can't wait the finish

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Old December 13th, 2005, 09:51 PM   #110
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I think the Burj will make it to 492m first for the very reason that the upper floors in the burj are tiny... once it gets above the residential units and it gets into the offices, the floor space should be very small then, in which case the Burj will really pick up speed.

SWFC tapers as well if you look at it from the right angle, but it probably still has much bigger upper floors then the burj..

I heard that the concrete structure in the burj will rise at 3 floors a week when it gets to the smaller floors higher up. I wonder how fast the Burj will grow after it reaches its 575m height for the concrete structure; since its an elongated steel structure on top of that going to a height that nobody knows for sure yet, though I think that the top floor of the burj will be in the 750meter range.
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Old December 14th, 2005, 12:39 AM   #111
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Old December 14th, 2005, 01:53 AM   #112
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Great! More and more floors!!! It's going faster than Burj Dubai!
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Old December 14th, 2005, 09:29 AM   #113
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Last time I was there, yes. Everything in China seems to be worked on 24-7. Tough deal when towers are erecting next door to your apartment building.
Good reason for asking lower rent bill.


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That thing is absolutly massive! I love it!

Whats with the 2 storeys of pure concrete?!
That’s a conference hall. As Coth put it, it does work in another way. The concrete wall functions as a huge beam. It redistributes the entire load and moment from the upper tower to the four large side columns. In case the tower topples down, damage effect on the 5 storey shopping mall beneath would be greatly reduced by the redistribution.
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Old December 14th, 2005, 09:46 AM   #114
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I heard that the concrete structure in the burj will rise at 3 floors a week when it gets to the smaller floors higher up. I wonder how fast the Burj will grow after it reaches its 575m height for the concrete structure; since its an elongated steel structure on top of that going to a height that nobody knows for sure yet, though I think that the top floor of the burj will be in the 750meter range.
Burj rises up by 3 floors/wk later is interesting. For one thing, it is still not ascertain that transporting fresh concrete on high elevation is guaranteed to be working, and may take a toll on the schedule. The time for transporting concrete from ground to the peak service core would take 20-25 minutes, which would affect the concrete temperature. But I was understood tht according to samsung’s material manager, a cooling technology would be used, which the concrete temperature will conform to the requirement. There ll be a few ‘pitstop’ for transporting the concrete to the top for adjusting the temperature. All these are on paper, and we will see how the real condition works on. And talking on the elongated steel, I believe no man has ever erected the spire at that scale b4. It would be a slow process to assemble the steel piece by piece by means of jacking up. Other challenging tasks would be stabilizing the spire against 1.6m oscillation sway and the installation of the high speed lifts. I see a slower progress on Burj after it has done with the concrete structure.

Btw, I think things r getting slower on swfc now.. not much change compare to two wks ago..a rise of 1 floor. Could chill temperature affects the joints construction, where the steel may shrink and slowing down the progress? I m not familiar with cold weather construction, but i feel chinese usually pick up the speed vy fast after the chinese new yr.
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Old December 14th, 2005, 06:30 PM   #115
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What is the soul of Shanghai like? I mean life at street level and all that. It looks pretty impersonal from the pictures. Can anyone who's been there give us an idea?

As for the building, it will be beautiful, though the circle hole looked way better. Someone might have said this already, but wasn't there public outcry because people said it looked like the Japanese flag with the circle hole?
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Old December 14th, 2005, 07:25 PM   #116
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Geez, define what's your "impersonal", and "soul" of a city? How would you tell such thing?

are u another indian? or indian descendant?
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Old December 14th, 2005, 10:20 PM   #117
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What is the soul of Shanghai like? I mean life at street level and all that. It looks pretty impersonal from the pictures. Can anyone who's been there give us an idea?

As for the building, it will be beautiful, though the circle hole looked way better. Someone might have said this already, but wasn't there public outcry because people said it looked like the Japanese flag with the circle hole?
Well, I was there last winter for about 3 days
from what I can tell:
Pudong was rather impersonal since it was just high rise office buildings there (it might get more lively with the construction of all those new residentials in the background though), but the other parts of Shanghai, like the Bund and slightly more to the west where I was staying seemed very lively and filled with people. Those places seemed pretty welcoming, especially with street vendors and store owners greeting you to try to get you business.

But I've never lived there for longer, so I can't say if that's accurate or not. That was just my impression during my visit!
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Old December 15th, 2005, 04:36 AM   #118
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I second this. Pudong has absolutely no street life (except for heavy traffic ^ ^) but the rest of Shanghai certainly has a lot of street life, buzz and other stuff :-) Very spirited city if you ask me. Although I'm not saying everyone will like it ;-)
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Old December 15th, 2005, 05:38 AM   #119
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i feel the same. Absolutely no street life in pudong right now. But, i feel if we want to discover the city, we shld see it in the heart of the city, not mainly pudong. pudong is a newly developed area, designed to be a business hub coupled with residential and parks in the making. Local community may not well accustomed to the new area yet, and i feel thts the reason we dont find much activities in the area. When more residents move in, there would be more new business opportunity opening around, and hopefully we could see more modern street life of shanghainese.

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