Strata | Southwark | 147m | 43 fl - Page 4

bileduct · December 5th, 2005, 11:24 AM

If this was an office tower I'd love it, but for a residential tower does it really need to be that stubby? It does seem a bit chunky and corporate.

Residential towers notmally suffer less from the need for large uniform floorplates than offices and can often get more imaginative, broken up outlines and facades as a result, but that tower doesn't seem interested in taking advantage and seems happy to masquerade as the hq of a bank or firm of chartered accountants.

Not saying I'm against it, mind, it just seems an odd response to the site and the building type.

bileduct · December 5th, 2005, 11:26 AM

One more thing - assuming the station in the renderings is E+C then the tower and the turbines must be pretty much on a north-south axis, but London's prevailing winds are westerlies. Doesn't that mean that the turbines are going to be pointing the wrong way most of the time?

Unless maybe the entire building twists round like an old fashioned windmill. That really would be something.

Jake_the_Peg · December 5th, 2005, 11:31 AM

Prevailing winds are South-Westerly, and the tower faces South-South-West, so not far out.
I think chunky is appropriate to this design - think Empire State Building

Jonny 5 · December 5th, 2005, 12:26 PM

Empire State Building?

Jake_the_Peg · December 5th, 2005, 12:47 PM

Okay, I was pointing out a chunky tower that works because of its chunkiness, and has design similarities to the proposal (in my opinion) but, of course, it's an office building.

timo · December 5th, 2005, 01:04 PM

Shit the bed

That looks well nice, hope they build it

potto · December 5th, 2005, 01:07 PM

more empress state building! Haha

I think that Beetham proposal looks much better than this and therefore suits its prominent position. Although I do like the design of this, futuristic, solid and heavy, perhaps this will act as an anchor in the wasteland of Elephant and castle

london lad · December 8th, 2005, 10:44 AM

construction news reports that this shold be under construction in 2006 & finished by 2009- lets hope it breezes through plannig & theres no EH or Westminster sightline issues

lyonsdown · December 8th, 2005, 01:12 PM

Surely it'll appear more or less behind Westminster from most of the protected Western viewing angles.

mulattokid · December 8th, 2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wampa

Hmm, I wonder how bad the building will resonate... having three humming wind turbines going in and out of phase 24/7. Seems like a good idea on paper, but in reality?? Could be quite a few sleepless nights for some of its lighter-sleeping residents...

Anyone know of any existing buildings with built-in wind turbines?

I guess they carry out wind tunnel modelling and extrapolate upwards.

There is something starwars about this one too..what's the capital of the galaxy where the senate is housed? Corresant?

Fragmentor · December 8th, 2005, 05:10 PM

Courascant, could well be the republic Senate Building

eXSBass · December 8th, 2005, 06:45 PM

You guys are still wrong. It's Coruscant! Pesh! Ameaturs!

Sy · December 8th, 2005, 06:56 PM

That's a great looking tower!

Skyscraperkid2K4 · December 8th, 2005, 06:59 PM

The design is interesting to say the least and it doesn't look chunky or anythig

Fragmentor · December 8th, 2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXSBass

You guys are still wrong. It's Coruscant! Pesh! Ameaturs!

lol, star wars fan too are we?

***wjfox*** · December 8th, 2005, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by london lad

construction news reports that this shold be under construction in 2006 & finished by 2009-

I find that hard to believe somehow.

Smoggie_Si · December 8th, 2005, 09:20 PM

Looks absolutely superb! Elephant and Castle is certainly going to be an area to watch out for over the next 10 years.

I'm seriously considering buying a flat in the listed Erno Goldfinger tower in E&C as I can see prices rocketing once the redevelopment kicks in. Just slightly concerned that for the next year or so I'd be keen to wear a bulletproof vest before walking out the door

mulattokid · December 9th, 2005, 02:00 AM

I bow to you and may the force be with you. Lets hope it gets up in the timescale given.

chest · December 10th, 2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjfox2002

I find that hard to believe somehow.

Estates Gazette are reporting that the tower will begin construction in the summer.

nukey · December 10th, 2005, 06:34 PM

tickles all the right pickles. Only thing that I am not sure about is how the sloping bit will look at the top

December 5th, 2005, 12:26 PM	#64
Jonny 5 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,940 Likes (Received): 0	Empire State Building? __________________ If you watch the Internet backwards its a story about how a huge population of idiots was overthrown by a group of highly intelligent and sexless geeks. My SSP Diagram------﴾\__/﴿-----﴾\__/﴿----﴾\__/﴿ London Diagram -----﴾='.'=﴿----﴾='.'=﴿---﴾='.'=﴿ -----------------------------﴾"﴿_﴾"﴿---﴾"﴿_﴾"﴿---﴾"﴿_﴾"﴿ v¥v⁮⁮⁮⁮⁮⁮¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v⁮⁮⁮⁮⁮⁮¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v⁮⁮⁮⁮⁮⁮¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v¥v

December 8th, 2005, 06:56 PM	#73
Sy Bada Bing! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,338 Likes (Received): 15	That's a great looking tower! __________________ Obey The Suit!

December 9th, 2005, 02:00 AM	#78
mulattokid BLAND Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London Posts: 8,420 Likes (Received): 100	I bow to you and may the force be with you. Lets hope it gets up in the timescale given. __________________ Quote: "Everything in life is our fault...but that's not our fault" (By a friend of Quentin Crisp) www.jclodge.com (my singer sisters site) The headlines read: 'another footballer is charged with sexual miscontuct'! Is it pure coincidence that a mans Scrotum resembles a brain - requisite with both hemispheres, and its truncated spinal cord - always in search of sensation? (Mark Joseph 2008)

December 10th, 2005, 06:34 PM	#80
nukey Somnium Quinti Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 677 Likes (Received): 0	tickles all the right pickles. Only thing that I am not sure about is how the sloping bit will look at the top __________________ esaelp ecuas dna liatkcoc nwarp

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

December 5th, 2005, 11:24 AM	#61
bileduct malu cachu Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 396 Likes (Received): 0	If this was an office tower I'd love it, but for a residential tower does it really need to be that stubby? It does seem a bit chunky and corporate. Residential towers notmally suffer less from the need for large uniform floorplates than offices and can often get more imaginative, broken up outlines and facades as a result, but that tower doesn't seem interested in taking advantage and seems happy to masquerade as the hq of a bank or firm of chartered accountants. Not saying I'm against it, mind, it just seems an odd response to the site and the building type.

December 5th, 2005, 11:26 AM	#62
bileduct malu cachu Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 396 Likes (Received): 0	One more thing - assuming the station in the renderings is E+C then the tower and the turbines must be pretty much on a north-south axis, but London's prevailing winds are westerlies. Doesn't that mean that the turbines are going to be pointing the wrong way most of the time? Unless maybe the entire building twists round like an old fashioned windmill. That really would be something.

December 5th, 2005, 11:31 AM	#63
Jake_the_Peg with the extra leg Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 311 Likes (Received): 0	Prevailing winds are South-Westerly, and the tower faces South-South-West, so not far out. I think chunky is appropriate to this design - think Empire State Building

December 5th, 2005, 12:47 PM	#65
Jake_the_Peg with the extra leg Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 311 Likes (Received): 0	Okay, I was pointing out a chunky tower that works because of its chunkiness, and has design similarities to the proposal (in my opinion) but, of course, it's an office building.

December 5th, 2005, 01:04 PM	#66
timo Weaste Infection Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchestoh Posts: 436 Likes (Received): 9	Shit the bed That looks well nice, hope they build it

December 5th, 2005, 01:07 PM	#67
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,498 Likes (Received): 250	more empress state building! Haha I think that Beetham proposal looks much better than this and therefore suits its prominent position. Although I do like the design of this, futuristic, solid and heavy, perhaps this will act as an anchor in the wasteland of Elephant and castle

December 8th, 2005, 10:44 AM	#68
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	construction news reports that this shold be under construction in 2006 & finished by 2009- lets hope it breezes through plannig & theres no EH or Westminster sightline issues

December 8th, 2005, 01:12 PM	#69
lyonsdown Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kennington, London Posts: 466 Likes (Received): 0	Surely it'll appear more or less behind Westminster from most of the protected Western viewing angles.

December 8th, 2005, 05:10 PM	#71
Fragmentor Funky London Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North London Posts: 1,787 Likes (Received): 0	Courascant, could well be the republic Senate Building

December 8th, 2005, 06:45 PM	#72
eXSBass Tea. Earl grey. Hot. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,526 Likes (Received): 25	You guys are still wrong. It's Coruscant! Pesh! Ameaturs!

December 8th, 2005, 06:59 PM	#74
Skyscraperkid2K4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,441 Likes (Received): 1	The design is interesting to say the least and it doesn't look chunky or anythig

December 8th, 2005, 09:20 PM	#77
Smoggie_Si Bermondsey Boro Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,279 Likes (Received): 1	Looks absolutely superb! Elephant and Castle is certainly going to be an area to watch out for over the next 10 years. I'm seriously considering buying a flat in the listed Erno Goldfinger tower in E&C as I can see prices rocketing once the redevelopment kicks in. Just slightly concerned that for the next year or so I'd be keen to wear a bulletproof vest before walking out the door