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Old January 29th, 2006, 04:04 PM   #81
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Under-rated: NYC (Manhattan). How can NYC possibly be under-rated? Because as glorious as the pics are, nothing can capture the overwhelming scale of this city... except a visit in person.

Most tier 2 or 3 cities use "aerial" postcard shots of pretty settings to obscure the truth (and the true scale) about their skyline...

But these places are disappointing when visited at grade

Appropriately enough (given the direction of this thread), Sydney is prime example of this sleight of hand. So many pretty aerials, but the city skyline is disappointing in person.

If you look at "real" photos of that city take by "real" people who don't own helicopters, you'll see the truth.

Toronto seems over-rated because of the "boosterism" but most of that local pride is founded in the fact that the city doesn't photograph as well as others because the skyline is 6 miles long (not 6 blocks). People who live here know how big and dense the city really is.... in a number of different places beyond the core.


Here's some basic shots of both cities from similar angles and similar scale. It's clear which one is over-rated.






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Regarding scale, here's Sydney's tallest building, World Tower, plunked beside Commerce Court at King and Bay. World Tower is about 30 feet shorter than Commerce Court.

Not much of an impact on Toronto's waterfront skyline, which is its "small" skyline, as opposed to the large north-south skyline.

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Old January 29th, 2006, 04:43 PM   #82
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Another underrated skyline is Seattle.





and Los Angeles...





I have to say Los Angleles because before I started visiting SSC, I didn't know it had a skyline.
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Old January 29th, 2006, 05:31 PM   #83
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Underrated: Maarssen Skyline.
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Old January 29th, 2006, 06:33 PM   #84
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Seattle is definitely underrated.
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Old January 29th, 2006, 09:37 PM   #85
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considering I posted a few pics of Seattle and LA, I think I can get away with one little TO pic

I found this little gem while updating the Toronto Density thread. It gives a good indication of the full CBD, and it's moderate contribution to the skyline.

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Old January 30th, 2006, 05:48 AM   #86
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meh...I think the pics by elliot are more what people of when they think skyline. Those are real good shots. The above pic just shows more that there is some good highrise resendtial (10-20 floors) outside of the CBD. You could point out countless Brasilian and Asian city's (and NYC and Chicago) and get the same long string of resendtial high rise look. Not to say it isn't cool but its not a "skyline".
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Old January 30th, 2006, 06:19 AM   #87
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meh...I think the pics by elliot are more what people of when they think skyline. Those are real good shots. The above pic just shows more that there is some good highrise resendtial (10-20 floors) outside of the CBD. You could point out countless Brasilian and Asian city's (and NYC and Chicago) and get the same long string of resendtial high rise look. Not to say it isn't cool but its not a "skyline".
Actually, that is the whole CBD. That small cluster in the middle of the shot (Yonge & Bloor) is 50+ storey office buildings, everything to the right is downtown. It's about 40% residential, I'd say.

Nothing 10 storeys high along there would show up... the scale is deceiving. Like I said, the tallest building in that middle cluster is 51 storeys (545'). Considering that, it appears that alot of those buildings hover around the 300-400' range (if they're 10-20 storey buildings, their tenants are getting a heck of a good deal!)

This sort of illustrates what I said earlier about Toronto being misunderstood. Those aren't small buildings, and they're not necessarily residential.

You don't have to consider it a skyline, but I do.

Here's a shitty little shot of Yonge & Bloor...


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Old January 30th, 2006, 06:50 AM   #88
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sorry to beat a dead horse, but here's a skyline shot of Toronto's CBD from the north that illsutrates my point. Yonge and Bloor is in the foreground, the CN Tower and all the rest are in the background, almost 2 miles away.

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Old January 30th, 2006, 07:02 AM   #89
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Took these from the LA forum:

Los Angeles Skyline

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Old January 30th, 2006, 07:43 AM   #90
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another view of toronto's hidden skyline
looking south toward the lake.

These buildings look small form high aerials pics taken from the CN tower. I often hear forumers call these 10-15 story buildings after they see aerials of the city.
But closer up, as in this pic, you see that they are quite tall, but not as tall as the MINT district.



and of course the lake shot


As for underated skyline i think montreal is often overlooked because of it's location in North America

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Old January 30th, 2006, 08:54 AM   #91
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The above pic just shows more that there is some good highrise resendtial (10-20 floors) outside of the CBD.
I realize the point you are trying to make, and I even somewhat agree.

However, 10 to 20 floors is hardly an accurate floor count range for the skyline along Yonge from Bloor to the Lake. A conservative figure would be 20-30s...with many significant buildings, both residential and office, taller than that.
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Old January 30th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #93
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LA is definitely underrated (and Seoul too). Sure, it's a huge city, but the skyline itself should be appreciated. I think Shanghai and Dubai are grossly overrated.
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Old January 30th, 2006, 10:03 PM   #94
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In Canada specifically, I think:

Montreal and Edmonton are under-rated.

Consideing it's size, London is under-rated.
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Old January 30th, 2006, 11:11 PM   #95
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NYC would probably fall as borderline.
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