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Old February 6th, 2008, 04:50 AM   #661
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WOW this tower is going to be massive!
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Old February 6th, 2008, 05:10 AM   #662
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It would be a good thing if Imre would take few more pictures today of the construction yard of Al Burj.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 05:12 AM   #663
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new sticky?
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Old February 6th, 2008, 05:36 AM   #664
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I think we have the materials to build a 1600m tower - the real problem is elevators and support structures taking up too much space.

The larger the population moving up and down in the tower, the more elevators you need. Unfortunately, the elevators have to be fast enough to rapidly move passengers up to 1600 m and then back down to the floor, and unless you can get elevators fast and safe enough to do this, you need more elevators...

Plus, at some point, a tower can become so tall that support columns will dominate the floor space on lower floors in order to support the immense weight of floors above.

Past the current record-contenders (Al Burj, Burj Dubai, et al.) I think we're going to need to see improvements in materials science and transportation to make taller towers feasible.

Wrong... Theoretically, we have been able to build structures this tall (and much taller) for years now.. with our current technology, we can build structures that are a mile high, its just a matter of how much money can be dumped into a single building.

Frank Lloyd Wright (who designed the mile high "Illinois Tower") proposed a 528 story building in the 50's. Maybe then, that wasnt possible. But now it definitely is.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 05:53 AM   #665
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new sticky?
Should be.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 08:32 AM   #666
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Another megatall....when will the madness end? ....very glad to see this one started.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #667
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hey, i thought this was supposed to be built on one of dubai's waterfront projects? i mean, one of those man made islands? how come its inland now?

or am i simply too outdated with regards to its contruction site?

Waterfront YES
Mane made Island: NO


... and yup a little outdated.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 12:53 PM   #668
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Thanks Jarmo

Which size would be good?

"quality: 12" -- I have no idea what is this

about size - what ever size you think is good enough to show the facade / construction details of burj dubai and soon al burj i guess when the widh of the photo is ~1000 pixels, it should be ok? (:

about "quality: 12" - when you resize your photos [or do any other stuff to them] in adobe photoshop, the program asks you before saving at which quality you want to have it saved. 12 is the highest option. if saved at 12, the file size will be bigger than usually, but with great quality, and without that blurry-pixelated stuff.

yea, i'm not good at explaining stuff
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Old February 6th, 2008, 01:03 PM   #669
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Great to see another supertall project starting. Just as Burj Dubai finishes this one will be getting interesting. Preume once it is finsihed there will be extensive landscaping around the site. I am sure that they will move the power station to open up that valuable piece of land between the AB and the Sea.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 07:04 PM   #670
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Can anyone just post some pics of the construction site where they started with the preparation work (hopefully)?
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Old February 6th, 2008, 07:48 PM   #671
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Wrong... Theoretically, we have been able to build structures this tall (and much taller) for years now.. with our current technology, we can build structures that are a mile high, its just a matter of how much money can be dumped into a single building.

Frank Lloyd Wright (who designed the mile high "Illinois Tower") proposed a 528 story building in the 50's. Maybe then, that wasnt possible. But now it definitely is.
I agree with you that we have the materials and technological know-how to build a structure that tall. What I was commenting on is that with a tower that tall, it would be impractical to make it useable by humans for working or living space, because too much space would be taken up by support steel and elevators. I'm betting that you could increase the size of the base to compensate for this, but the point of towers is that they allow a lot of real estate with a very small footprint. If someone were to build a mile-high communications tower, I'm sure it could be easily done. Building a mile-high office or condo tower without addressing space issues with stronger, smaller structural components and more efficient elevators would be economically impractical (and since most buildings are built by private capital seeking a return on investment, practically impossible).
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Old February 6th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #672
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Can anyone just post some pics of the construction site where they started with the preparation work (hopefully)?
look at page 27, there are pics from january 30th ( imre )
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Old February 6th, 2008, 08:30 PM   #673
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it seems like a random place to put such a tall building, theres nothing around it!
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Old February 6th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #674
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it seems like a random place to put such a tall building, theres nothing around it!
Remember it will probably be at least 5 years before it is completed. I'll wager that the surroundings will look a bit different then
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Old February 7th, 2008, 07:00 AM   #675
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that is true just that ugly factory is there!
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Old February 7th, 2008, 07:24 AM   #676
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that is true just that ugly factory is there!
That will be one of the things that will be changing in the coming years.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #677
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I've moved the Al Burj Thread at SSP to "Under Construction" HERE
How do we know that is actually the Al Burj building site

Someone could have written "Al Burj" on an old development sign and taken a picture of it
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Old February 7th, 2008, 11:15 AM   #678
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Bllah, bllah, bllah ...

They are working on the slurry wall. I could see the machineries working in slightly different locations in different days ... and boy how massive they are, reminding me of the machineries used to build with cut-and-cover technique the Dubai Metro's underground stations and tracks.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 07:01 PM   #679
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according to this the tower will be 1085 m tall - although I think it must be a mistake because 850 plus 200 is 1050m and not 1085m ...

http://www.BauNetz.de/db/news/?news_...rce=empfehlung

edit: this official article says construction has started

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Old February 7th, 2008, 07:03 PM   #680
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Yes, all those doubts are legitimate. Why are they building it right next to a power plant?
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