daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > General Urban Developments > DN Archives



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools
Old May 31st, 2008, 10:06 PM   #1001
Ni3lS
Moderator
 
Ni3lS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 16,465
Likes (Received): 3423

The tower on the left is burj dubai right? - 1000 post
__________________
MY SHOWCASE
FLICKR / MY TRAVELS:
[2016] > Norway, Valencia, Arvidsjaur, Innsbruck, Moselvalley, Geneva, Lisbon, Basel, Vosges, Munich, Trieste, Barcelona, Nürburgring, Frankfurt, Spa, Berlin, Wuppertal, Dortmund, Como, Monaco, Saint-Tropez, Tegernsee, Hamburg, Lübeck, Madrid, Stuttgart, Faro, Hochgurgl
[2017] > Düsseldorf, Mallorca, Geneva, Annecy, Montafon, Vorarlberg, Barcelona, Zürich, Crete, Lisbon, Cascais, Málaga, Ronda, Dolomiti, Sistiana, Kitzbühel
Ni3lS no está en línea  

Sponsored Links
Old May 31st, 2008, 11:30 PM   #1002
/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8
SSC
 
/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Mexico
Posts: 773
Likes (Received): 843

This image is amazin...
...the photo of below is incredible to the right the burj dubai and to the left side to the al burj.
/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8 no está en línea  
Old June 1st, 2008, 11:28 AM   #1003
Mr. Welsh
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 62
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tag_one View Post
Carbon fibers can't replace steel rebar yet. Although carbon fibers are 7 times stronger than steel the attachment between the carbon and the concrete isn't that well as far as I know. This is way it's still unpractical to replace the rebar by carbon. I once read about a company that uses a carbon grid to reinforce precasted concrete elements like floor plates, but personally I'm very doubtful about it.

Altough you still need rebar you can add carbon fibers to the concrete. This way it's possible to handle a small amount of tension in the concrete so that you can increase the load on a floor or a column without adding more rebar. In combination with high strength concrete (>100 N/mm2) you can increase the hight of a building significantly.
Much R&D is currently going on in this area, but one of the fundamental problems with many of these advanced composite materials is that they are very strong, but not stiff/rigid. Designing for strength is easy, but serviceability is difficult because of the deflections.
Mr. Welsh no está en línea  
Old June 1st, 2008, 12:24 PM   #1004
Ni3lS
Moderator
 
Ni3lS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 16,465
Likes (Received): 3423

Quote:
Originally Posted by /-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8 View Post
This image is amazin...
...the photo of below is incredible to the right the burj dubai and to the left side to the al burj.
Left is burj Dubai, Right is Al burj old design
__________________
MY SHOWCASE
FLICKR / MY TRAVELS:
[2016] > Norway, Valencia, Arvidsjaur, Innsbruck, Moselvalley, Geneva, Lisbon, Basel, Vosges, Munich, Trieste, Barcelona, Nürburgring, Frankfurt, Spa, Berlin, Wuppertal, Dortmund, Como, Monaco, Saint-Tropez, Tegernsee, Hamburg, Lübeck, Madrid, Stuttgart, Faro, Hochgurgl
[2017] > Düsseldorf, Mallorca, Geneva, Annecy, Montafon, Vorarlberg, Barcelona, Zürich, Crete, Lisbon, Cascais, Málaga, Ronda, Dolomiti, Sistiana, Kitzbühel
Ni3lS no está en línea  
Old June 1st, 2008, 01:36 PM   #1005
Buyckske Ruben
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,968
Likes (Received): 214

No bullshit thread please stay on topic...

I wonder what the new updates from the site will be. Long time ago that we heard something about the site. Hopefully we got a update whit some pics.
Buyckske Ruben no está en línea  
Old June 1st, 2008, 10:39 PM   #1006
AltinD
The Modecator
 
AltinD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: TIRANA / Dubai / Vienna
Posts: 31,827
Likes (Received): 6071

You can see here very clearly where the site is in relation with Dubai Marina and JLT:

[IMG]http://i31.************/wwkzub.jpg[/IMG]
Photographer: soennecken
Date: 29/05/2008
Altitude: 20,000 ft (zoom used)
__________________
I am the eye in the sky, Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules, Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind.

AltinD no está en línea  
Old June 2nd, 2008, 12:08 AM   #1007
Shahid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 495
Likes (Received): 101

Quote:
Originally Posted by AltinD View Post
You can see here very clearly where the site is in relation with Dubai Marina and JLT:

[IMG]http://i31.************/wwkzub.jpg[/IMG]
Photographer: soennecken
Date: 29/05/2008
Altitude: 20,000 ft (zoom used)
next to the factory near the sea??
Shahid no está en línea  
Old June 2nd, 2008, 02:58 AM   #1008
LeMoN-SK
Regular Fool
 
LeMoN-SK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Bratislava
Posts: 2,851
Likes (Received): 81

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shahid View Post
next to the factory near the sea??
I think that is a power plant and it will be replaced soon by some new project...
LeMoN-SK no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 12:53 PM   #1009
CULWULLA
Registered User
 
CULWULLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 62,728
Likes (Received): 10106

watch this space..
__________________
Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Sydney- 2020.. https://www.buildsydney.com/forum
CULWULLA no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 12:57 PM   #1010
ZZ-II
I love Skyscrapers
 
ZZ-II's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria
Posts: 33,502
Likes (Received): 6525

pics by charlies7, posted in the UAE Section:

[IMG]http://i30.************/2jepxr7.jpg[/IMG]

This is the Map View and the red spots are where i took the pics from.

This is from area 1 with the red square around it, looks like the 'Tall Tower' site office.

[IMG]http://i26.************/5bzi3n.jpg[/IMG]

This is a panoramic from the spot with the 5 spokes coming out of it.

[IMG]http://i30.************/zwdbnt.jpg[/IMG]

This is the equipment on the 'Tall Tower' site, which the guards were so nice enough to confirm.

[IMG]http://i25.************/2v327iv.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i31.************/24opy0z.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i32.************/2cong5z.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i28.************/2qbhqol.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i30.************/2njx8gp.jpg[/IMG]

These two images are the only plot signs I could find:

[IMG]http://i28.************/72q0k6.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i26.************/o0cnx3.jpg[/IMG]

and some great news :

Nakheel increases height of Tall Tower to 1.4 kilometres


* Published: 20 June 2008 18:12 GMT
* Author: Colin Foreman
* More by this Author

Tallest skyscraper in the world will be the centrepiece of Ibn Battuta Mall.

Local developer Nakheel is finalising plans for the world's tallest tower in Dubai. The scheme involves constructing a 1.4 kilometre-tall tower next to the Ibn Battuta Mall in the Jebel Ali area.


The Tall Tower project had involved plans for a 1,050 metre-tall building, but it is understood these designs have now been revised upwards to make it the tallest skyscraper in the world.

At 1.4km it is almost double the height of Emaar's Burj Dubai, which is expected to reach about 815 metres, and several hundred metres taller than rival towers in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

A spokesman for Nakheel confirms designs for the tower are being finalised and says a launch is expected this year.


Earlier designs for the project showed a building with 228 floors, a four-level basement and one service sub-level – a total built-up area of 1.49 million square metres with 492,000 sq m of useable space.

The tower will house offices, apartments and hotels. In the original 1,050 metre design, the highest habitable floor was at 850 metres, topped by a 200-metre central spire with a three-level function area and three service floors (MEED 10:8:08).

Nakheel's tower will be the focal point of its plans for the Ibn Battuta Mall development next to Jumeirah islands and Jumeirah Lake Towers. The Tall Tower will be flanked by about 20 smaller towers of up to 90 storeys that will be next to the revamped shopping mall.

Work has started on changing the layout of the mall ahead of the proposed expansion, which will double its existing retail area to 250,000 sq m by building retail space over existing parking areas between the mall and the metro.

The expansion will also include entertainment attractions and a roller-coaster on top of the mall.


The Tall Tower was originally called the Pinnacle and destined for Palm Jumeirah, before becoming part of the Dubai Waterfront scheme when it was renamed Al-Burj. The consultancy team for the tower includes UK-based WSP, US-based Leslie E Robertson Associates and Australia's Woods Bagot.

The project is just one of several skyscraper projects under development in the Gulf that could claim the title of the world's tallest building.

Saudi-based Kingdom Holding had planned to build a tower in Jeddah that was expected to be one mile high (1,609 metres). However, these plans are understood to have been scaled back and the final height of the building could be about 1,100 metres.

Like Nakheel's Tall Tower and the Burj Dubai, the tower will form part of a wider 5.4 sq km real estate project planned by Kingdom Holding.

Another masterplanned community anchored by a tall tower is Kuwait's City of Silk. The Burj Mubarak is expected to be 1,001 metres tall. In Bahrain, Danish architect Henning Larsens Tegnestue (HLT) has completed design work for a 1,022 metre-tall tower.

If all these projects go ahead, and no other 1,000 metre-plus towers are built in other regions, the Gulf will be home to the five tallest buildings in the world.
ZZ-II no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 01:21 PM   #1011
Infrasuper Planet
Infrasuper Planet
 
Infrasuper Planet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 399
Likes (Received): 1

Splendid News!!!
Imagine....
A 1400m tower, surrounded by other 300+++ towers!!!
Can't wait to see the new revised plans and renders for the entire development!!
Just Awesome
...and a roller coaster on top of a shopping mall?? Geez, Dubai once again shows why its a truly innovative and cutting edge city
__________________

Aerials are Beyond Ones Mind to Imagine.
We are watching the Future Rise from the depth of the Earth and into the Heavens ever Higher
Infrasuper Planet no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 01:22 PM   #1012
CULWULLA
Registered User
 
CULWULLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 62,728
Likes (Received): 10106

great stuff zz-11. so new name is Tall Tower? aptly named.
1.4km, wow
__________________
Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Sydney- 2020.. https://www.buildsydney.com/forum
CULWULLA no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 02:11 PM   #1013
Buyckske Ruben
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,968
Likes (Received): 214



OMG!!!



other link that confirm this human mirakle .

- Nakheel increases height of Tall Tower to 1.4 kilometres
http://www.meed.com/news/2008/06/nak...ilometres.html






HISTORIC

Last edited by Buyckske Ruben; June 21st, 2008 at 02:39 PM.
Buyckske Ruben no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 02:32 PM   #1014
Tag_one
Registered User
 
Tag_one's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nieuwegein/Holland
Posts: 695
Likes (Received): 6

Can't wait till this project start. Almost 2 times as high as the burj
Tag_one no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 02:36 PM   #1015
Hed_Kandi
Registered Usurper
 
Hed_Kandi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,275
Likes (Received): 12567

If this tower is built, it will be absolutely mind-boggling!
Hed_Kandi no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 02:41 PM   #1016
Alle
Registered User
 
Alle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Göteborg
Posts: 2,337
Likes (Received): 9

This should be celebrated.

The different parts of Dubai are being connected with these developments, and there is still a lot to be done in the Marina, Media City, JLT... not to talk about the off shore developments and the shoreline ones.

Well well, 1.4 km .
__________________
Stop the censorship in the BiH forums

Castles And Fortresses [Alpe Adria] [Bosnia]
Alle no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 02:43 PM   #1017
Msradell
Always looking up
 
Msradell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
Posts: 1,772
Likes (Received): 209

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infrasuper Planet View Post
...and a roller coaster on top of a shopping mall?? Geez, Dubai once again shows why its a truly innovative and cutting edge city
While the building will certainly be innovative and beautiful while setting records the concept of the roller-coaster on top of the mall isn't! There are several in Las Vegas on top of casinos that go inside and outside of them in the Stratosphere has three rides on top of it! In this case Dubai is just a copycat, not cutting edge.
__________________
"Written using Dragon Naturally Speaking"
I've learned that depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.
Msradell no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 02:44 PM   #1018
dettol
Logarithm
 
dettol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Auckland
Posts: 836
Likes (Received): 7

It was about bloody time they came out and said it... well over due and glad we now have official confirmation
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacks View Post
The Pearl Tower observation deck will always be the best one to visit. After all, it's the only one from which you won't be able to see the Pearl Tower...
dettol no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 02:49 PM   #1019
Alle
Registered User
 
Alle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Göteborg
Posts: 2,337
Likes (Received): 9

Quote:
Originally Posted by Msradell View Post
While the building will certainly be innovative and beautiful while setting records the concept of the roller-coaster on top of the mall isn't! There are several in Las Vegas on top of casinos that go inside and outside of them in the Stratosphere has three rides on top of it! In this case Dubai is just a copycat, not cutting edge.
Certainly, nothing innovative nor ground breaking with that. It wont change anything. Rollercoasters on building... I thought they would at least restrict such things to Dubailand.
__________________
Stop the censorship in the BiH forums

Castles And Fortresses [Alpe Adria] [Bosnia]
Alle no está en línea  
Old June 21st, 2008, 03:29 PM   #1020
SirAdrian
♥ Skyscrapers
 
SirAdrian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 591
Likes (Received): 49

Wow, just wow

I hope they pick a good design. I was quite content with the original one, doesn't need to been very exotic to look great.
SirAdrian no está en línea  


Closed Thread

Tags
dubai

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu