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Old September 5th, 2008, 04:59 PM   #1161
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It looks as though this tower is going ahead.... I wonder what the final design looks like....
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Old September 5th, 2008, 05:41 PM   #1162
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So, they begin construction? The design must be complete then.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 10:05 PM   #1163
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That's great, now we just need some pictures...
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Old September 5th, 2008, 10:41 PM   #1164
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So, they begin construction? The design must be complete then.
Not the construction, just the preparation for ground works.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 01:06 AM   #1165
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Good news!
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Old September 6th, 2008, 01:11 AM   #1166
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C/U 05/9/08

AlBurj Plot

[IMG]http://i35.************/1ju6fo.jpg[/IMG]
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Old September 6th, 2008, 01:33 AM   #1167
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It's busy there...Oh yeah...
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Old September 6th, 2008, 01:47 AM   #1168
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Hi all.

Nice to see a pic.

I find all the secrecy and the more or less framing of Imre to not take pics utter crap. When the early earthworks and piling were happening on the Burj Dubai the widespread idea of posting construction pics online was just taking off so there is not many pics of the activity - understandable but still a crying shame.

Here we have what may be by far the next WTB possibly 1400 meters high and we are still missing out on the early progress because of the secrecy crap. Look at the Chicago Spire - many updates amounting to thousands of pics and only the piling is done. The way it should be.

Some of us find the early works interesting as it is still part of the construction of a world icon. Sad that in this part of the world there is a shroud that we must look through because either people are told not to take pics or have to take them from far away. Sorta like how things in the old Soviet Union were "behind the iron curtain" some things in the Middle East are "behind the sand curtain".

I am not complaining - I am happy to get the updates we get - I just wish it was more open like in North America.

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Old September 6th, 2008, 03:47 AM   #1169
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that picture shows how the location is bad for a world icon ...
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Old September 6th, 2008, 03:50 AM   #1170
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that picture shows how the location is bad for a world icon ...
I know. I dont see why they dont use it to fill the massive gap between the Burj Dubai area and the marina.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 04:44 AM   #1171
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that picture shows how the location is bad for a world icon ...
By the time it is finished, you won't even recognize the surroundings.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 05:29 AM   #1172
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Surely we need a new category to describe a structure like this?

I mean, when you compare it to the Empire State Building or Taipei 101 then "supertall" isn't really good enough anymore...

What about "hypertall" or "star-scraper"? A building this size could contain hundreds of thousands of people, and literally miles of cables, piping and electrics - almost like a city within a building.
I like "starhunter" to name this kind of buildings... "cazaestrellas" en espaņol

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Old September 6th, 2008, 01:31 PM   #1173
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The best pic so far!

Old but you can see clearly the future circle shaped floorplate.




And on the last pic above from bizzybonita. I can see that they put steelframes in the holes. Just like they do with the Chicago Spire.


Good work AltinD!
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Old September 6th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #1174
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The circle shape could have to do with the design of the building base or nothing with ?
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Old September 6th, 2008, 03:10 PM   #1175
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since we don't know the final design...we don't know it .
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Old September 8th, 2008, 01:35 AM   #1176
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Hi all.

Nice to see a pic.

I find all the secrecy and the more or less framing of Imre to not take pics utter crap. When the early earthworks and piling were happening on the Burj Dubai the widespread idea of posting construction pics online was just taking off so there is not many pics of the activity - understandable but still a crying shame.

Here we have what may be by far the next WTB possibly 1400 meters high and we are still missing out on the early progress because of the secrecy crap. Look at the Chicago Spire - many updates amounting to thousands of pics and only the piling is done. The way it should be.

Some of us find the early works interesting as it is still part of the construction of a world icon. Sad that in this part of the world there is a shroud that we must look through because either people are told not to take pics or have to take them from far away. Sorta like how things in the old Soviet Union were "behind the iron curtain" some things in the Middle East are "behind the sand curtain".

I am not complaining - I am happy to get the updates we get - I just wish it was more open like in North America.

Well, you can see the chicago spire site very easily from a few floors up on the nearest building, from a bridge, or some other easy to get to place. With this it's far away from the nearest tower and harder to get to anyway. All you'll see are various machines moving around the place. The best picture we got so far was that aerial view which happened to have this construction site in it so we found out the shape of the plot. People can't do this every day.

Anyway, the thing about Imre not taking pictures is true. He said so himself that he promised not to take pictures unti the official announcement.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 03:21 AM   #1177
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Hi Malec.

I wasn't saying that Imre not being able to take pics is not true - I read what he said about it the same as you did. I mean the whole concept of secrecy around projects in Dubai is nonsense.

I realize the CS has many good vantage points but even if it didn't people would be able to take shots from just outside the fence.

I am very knowledgeable of what is involved in foundation work - meaning I know all we would see is machines moving around the site - that is what I want to see. I find all aspects of construction interesting including prep and foundation work.

I understand people can't do this everyday - the comment was uncalled for.

I, like many others are very interested to get updates on the next WTS and as I said before, I wish it was more open - that's all.

Peace brother.

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Old September 8th, 2008, 08:13 AM   #1178
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yeah, but were not even sure if the design is finalized. Last report was they were finishing up and fine tuning, so who knows really. I agree, but what I've learned is that Dubai has a whole set of rules completely different than America. Here, we have to have everything finalized and approved and that alone can take years, so buildings like the Chicago spire are set in stone before anything gets started. In countries like UAE, China, etc., they can get a skyscraper's groundwork started in a few months and basically solve as it's getting worked on.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 12:07 PM   #1179
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Hi Malec.

I wasn't saying that Imre not being able to take pics is not true - I read what he said about it the same as you did. I mean the whole concept of secrecy around projects in Dubai is nonsense.

I realize the CS has many good vantage points but even if it didn't people would be able to take shots from just outside the fence.

I am very knowledgeable of what is involved in foundation work - meaning I know all we would see is machines moving around the site - that is what I want to see. I find all aspects of construction interesting including prep and foundation work.

I understand people can't do this everyday - the comment was uncalled for.

I, like many others are very interested to get updates on the next WTS and as I said before, I wish it was more open - that's all.

Peace brother.

Nakheel doesn't want to publicize this tower yet for many reasons, first because of possible competition from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and second not affect the aurora around Burj Dubai being the tallest tower in the world to be. The developer of CS doesn't have these issues to deal with and he would be happy for every publicity he can get, especially considering that he might not even have started to offer units for sale in the tower.

Also the the argument about the location is absolutely true. You can remember very well how we were able to take a picture of progress on Burj Dubai site only after the tower cranes were erected and work on the structure started. Before that we could only get pictures of a blue fence hundreds of meters from the tower's location itself or in a few occasions just the outline of the huge dug hole.

Situation here is even worse: First the tower is further away from the road then Burj Dubai is and second the site is located very far from most people's daily commutes. For example I would have to drive more then 30 kms from my home to get there.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 01:02 PM   #1180
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I hope that someone from SSC will move to JBR...
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