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Old September 13th, 2008, 01:31 PM   #1201
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I hope the design has not changed. That was kinda cylindrical you know...
I love this tower! Can't wait to see the renderings!
I get your point looking at the old design at night, cos it looks great. But trust me 1,400 metre giant with concrete exterior will be so ugly.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 01:32 PM   #1202
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I get your point looking at the old design at night, cos it looks great. But trust me 1,400 metre giant with concrete exterior will be so ugly.
Indeed. And impossible to be build I think. The structure at the bottoms must be meters and meteres thick to hold the above structure.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 01:37 PM   #1203
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Considering the design will be 1,400 metres, I strongly think the new design will be slender toward the top like burj, because like the old design if the bottom size is equal to top then its just too much structural weight and size to hold at the bottom. And probaly have hole at the top like SWFC to ease against the wind. And Nakheel will think of anything to counter the wind. (and will have the deepest foundation any skyscraper ever had)

BTW how much times stronger are the winds roughly at 1400 metres high up in the air compared to 800 metres at same condition?
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Old September 13th, 2008, 01:50 PM   #1204
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I still love the old design. But I agree with the concrete point. They should cover the entire building in black-tinted glass. Badass skyscraper ftw.
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Old September 14th, 2008, 05:46 PM   #1205
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Well, I think in anycase, the new design will be completely different to reflect the times since the orginal design back 4 years ago. Dubai has itself changed in building codes and rules in which the new design will have to be approved to. I expect the design will be curved since "Curve is IN" and reflexts the current times. I also expect more glass to keep the structure lighter at the top. I expect it to be more "GREEN" as in adding FANS at to top to generate power for the building. If the winds are high, what better place to draw energy from. Also, I think there is a trend of placing outdoor courts of trees and small parks at some of the layers of the building. If people do not need to use the elevator to go all the way down to get some fresh air (for a break) the better on elevator congestion. It would be nice to have a small park to go to on the 110th floor.
Also, I expect the building to have a fluid enginerring design to it. Anyway, it will be exciting to see the design.
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Old September 14th, 2008, 05:52 PM   #1206
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I agree with you 100%...
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Old September 16th, 2008, 07:10 AM   #1207
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They started building the tower and no render yet?
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Old September 16th, 2008, 09:49 AM   #1208
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Politics and secrets

You may not need to provide the render of a building for workers to dig dirt. He just need instructions on dept and width of the project. If they are already building the base then the structure engineers most likely seem the renders and signed the paper of non-exclosure. In fact they may only have blueprints of the base structure only so they can do their work without knowing the height of the building ( my guess). It is a strange way of doing it I know! But this is part of the world where many things are done very differently compared to the west.
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Old September 17th, 2008, 07:27 AM   #1209
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what an annoying thing to do with that money
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Old September 18th, 2008, 03:34 AM   #1210
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So, does this waiting for a render of the building has anything to do with the Burj Dubai or the super tall proposal in Kuwait?
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Old September 18th, 2008, 11:03 AM   #1211
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Nobody knows, if they knew it would be posted here already
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Old September 18th, 2008, 11:27 AM   #1212
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I wonder

How the new burj annoucement will affect the prices in JLT , would it be doubled just like burj dubai area.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #1213
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loooooool they are really going to build it. unbelievable
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Old September 18th, 2008, 02:03 PM   #1214
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dubai has taken the skyline crown. i wonder how on earth would they fill up such huge volumes, the population i mean.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 03:16 PM   #1215
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dubai has taken the skyline crown. i wonder how on earth would they fill up such huge volumes, the population i mean.
Is easy to find people to fill them up, is just harder to find people with milions to pay for apartments.

With U.S. real estate crisis, I belive is a question of "when ?", not "if ?" Dubai real estate bubble will burst.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #1216
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Al burj came up in an article the other day, where it says the final height of this tower will be 1.28km (1280 metres) tall. Has there been other sources that said the same?

I presume this is a trustworthy website: http://www.vistadubai.com/dubai-news...letin-648.html
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Old September 18th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #1217
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Nope, it's not. The only thing trustworthy is an official statement from Nakheel. Most of those news websites steal the information from here.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 03:16 AM   #1218
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Information Flow

I agree with Malec. If you browse around the Internet, you will find most information about this building coming from here. We can only comment on proven information and take pictures of the site. We just have to wait.....

Not to put the sour notes on things but if you ever visit the southern part of Maleysia (sp?), you will see empty skyscrapers from place to place as you ride into Singapore. This was due to a sudden money crunch in the early 90s. Some even had an old rusty crane still on top. It is a very weird feeling to experience.

Can you imagine having a dark supertall (over 100 stories) completely empty with no windows? North Korea has one. It is really sad.

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Old September 19th, 2008, 07:36 AM   #1219
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Is easy to find people to fill them up, is just harder to find people with milions to pay for apartments.

With U.S. real estate crisis, I belive is a question of "when ?", not "if ?" Dubai real estate bubble will burst.
I think the US real estate situation has nothing to do with filling the towers. Statistically speaking, the majority of people buying those apartments are Europeans and Indians (src was like Metropolis). Dubai isn't quite the main tourist attraction for the US. We generally go to Europe, Asia, or Cancun or something lol.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 07:59 AM   #1220
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Dubai Vertical City 2.4Meters High - New Skyscaper

Update: Has anyone seen this article?
Dubai Vertical City

I find it hard to believe.
I would love to see a 2.4k meters Supertall being built.
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