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Old December 9th, 2005, 03:39 PM   #41
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Hold on in there, dont let the nagging doubts get to you!
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Old December 9th, 2005, 05:00 PM   #42
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what would stop sellar making the shard totally residential? is this unfeasable?
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Old December 9th, 2005, 06:19 PM   #43
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I wonder what this triangular tower Goth refers to in his website

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=502

looksl ike we'll have to wait for him to get back of his hols!!
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Old December 9th, 2005, 08:50 PM   #44
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Awesome - I hope these get built. It would certainly cheer me up whilst being smudged in to the windows on SWTrains through Vauxhall each day.

I can understand why Lambeth council would be against high rise developments though - it's not so much the height issue. Think of the services that have to be provided. Where do you put the additional rubbish of a sudden influx 1000s of people, schools, social provisions etc. in somewhere already densely populated and suffering with restrictive funds?

I really hope these get built. The potential for Vauxhall to thrive is there. The park, the small cafes, the notorious clubs, the history, the tourist sites nearby (e.g. lambeth palace) and not to mention the excellent transport links.
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Old December 9th, 2005, 09:22 PM   #45
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these guys look like a nice couple and they seem to meet the ground pretty well. Good luck to em.
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Old December 10th, 2005, 12:57 AM   #46
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I cant see any reason for this not getting planning permission
Lambeth Council refuse planning permission for over 70% of all new developments, and they rejected St George's Wharf... twice.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 07:05 PM   #47
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Awesome - I hope these get built. It would certainly cheer me up whilst being smudged in to the windows on SWTrains through Vauxhall each day.

I can understand why Lambeth council would be against high rise developments though - it's not so much the height issue. Think of the services that have to be provided. Where do you put the additional rubbish of a sudden influx 1000s of people, schools, social provisions etc. in somewhere already densely populated and suffering with restrictive funds?

I really hope these get built. The potential for Vauxhall to thrive is there. The park, the small cafes, the notorious clubs, the history, the tourist sites nearby (e.g. lambeth palace) and not to mention the excellent transport links.

Plus the issues you raised as local authoitry concerns. Lets forget political correctness on the behalf of local authorities and talk facts.

People who can affrod to buy £300.000 + apartments (not flats..that is council estate term) will, on balance, recycle by more than 50%, they will either work or have "independent means" which means they will pay FULL council tax. EQUATION: How many flats X full council tax = more than anywhere else in the borough (despite their protestations) These residents will demand good security and good streets (which, despite the initial exspence) will pull the area upwardly mobile. This development is already set in stone as a huge (if not politically welcome from principle points of view) beneficiary to this area. The issues, in my opinion ,would be either moral or elsewhere, but certainly, financial and "lets have an easy life and let the noveau riche in" are very seductive. On the positive side, the extra money will help those who find life less easy and rely the state more often.
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Awesome - I hope these get built. It would certainly cheer me up whilst being smudged in to the windows on SWTrains through Vauxhall each day.

I can understand why Lambeth council would be against high rise developments though - it's not so much the height issue. Think of the services that have to be provided. Where do you put the additional rubbish of a sudden influx 1000s of people, schools, social provisions etc. in somewhere already densely populated and suffering with restrictive funds?

I really hope these get built. The potential for Vauxhall to thrive is there. The park, the small cafes, the notorious clubs, the history, the tourist sites nearby (e.g. lambeth palace) and not to mention the excellent transport links.

Plus the issues you raised as local authoitry concerns. Lets forget political correctness on the behalf of local authorities and talk facts.

People who can affrod to buy £300.000 + apartments (not flats..that is council estate term) will, on balance, recycle by more than 50%, they will either work or have "independent means" which means they will pay FULL council tax. EQUATION: How many flats X full council tax = more than anywhere else in the borough (despite their protestations) These residents will demand good security and good streets (which, despite the initial exspence) will pull the area upwardly mobile. This development is already set in stone as a huge (if not politically welcome from principle points of view) beneficiary to this area. The issues, in my opinion ,would be either moral or elsewhere, but certainly, financial and "lets have an easy life and let the noveau riche in" are very seductive. On the positive side, the extra money will help those who find life less easy and rely the state more often.
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Old December 12th, 2005, 03:02 PM   #49
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They're ******* beautiful...assuming they're not going to be made of wood. They're sleek and the cladding looks good. Please build them!
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Old December 18th, 2005, 11:57 PM   #50
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triangular site not tower
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Old December 19th, 2005, 01:30 AM   #51
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ill add st georges wharf thats already been built to it later along with a few council blocks. still this gives an idea.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 04:40 AM   #52
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arrr it be an impressive cluster
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Old December 19th, 2005, 10:55 AM   #53
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How long before New Covent Garden market (big white square) and the other owners of that swathe of industrial units between the railway and nine elms get made offers they really can't refuse?

Great rendering btw, perfectly illustrates the potential.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 10:56 AM   #54
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Goth - are those twin towers in nine elms the ones that were proposed above the Sainsbury store from years back???
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not as far as i know london lad.
right guys, ive got an interview with the chap developing these towers, anyone got any questions?
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Old December 19th, 2005, 11:35 AM   #56
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who in their right mind is going to buy an apartment smack bang next to a busy bus station, right in the middle of one of the most heavily congested traffic junctions, in a somewhat dodgy area?

Lunacy.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 11:38 AM   #57
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the same people who pay 3.5 million for an apartment right over the road in st georges wharf.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 12:43 PM   #58
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not as far as i know london lad.
right guys, ive got an interview with the chap developing these towers, anyone got any questions?

Yes please!
Its one you would certainly ask in any case im sure.

What is the realistic timescale for this project?

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Old December 19th, 2005, 01:17 PM   #59
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Here's a few questions
I'd like to know the environmental credentials? Photovoltalic cells could work well on that design and smooth the application process.
What is their vision for the Vauxhall area?
What floor areas (m2) will the appartments have?
Is 180m the realistic maximum for such a site in London or could taller residentials be profitable?
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Old December 19th, 2005, 03:30 PM   #60
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Goth- As has been mentioned- when they going in for planning?? when do they envisage this starting construction?? How long will it take & have they been consulting Lambeth throughout & whats Lambeth councils response??
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