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View Poll Results: answer plz
Yes, they are 41 33.06%
No, they are not 72 58.06%
I don't know 6 4.84%
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Old December 20th, 2005, 07:23 PM   #81
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Look, anyone who says they are NOT a sign of economic development is just as
wrong as someone who says they ARE a sign of economic development. They
CAN BE A SIGN, but are not necessarily so.
Yes, a country could build them just to prove they can, but how often is an
expensive office tower built just for fun? How often are expensive condos/apartments
built when the population is not expanding? Normally, economic reasons necessitate
the building of these highrises.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 08:45 PM   #82
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No way, would you say then that Sao Paulo is the richest city on earth?

I would say it depends on the quality of the skyscraper not the quantity
Silly boy, So Paulo may have development problems, if you compare the city in a global scale, or with fully developed countries, but for Brazil an LATIN AMERICA, So Paulo rules as the greatest powerhouse of development and growth, inducing a geographic wave of prosperity that few cities in the world can compare.
So Paulo has the most active construction market in LATIN AMERICA, and so we have so may buildings in the city. Something that FLAT Mexico City has not the ability to produce.
About building quality, this is not a mexican especialiy (never was), as we can verify examinating the totally ordinary and ugly production of (VERY) low rise buildings built in Mexico City.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 10:00 PM   #83
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Very low rise?

The tallest buildings in latinamerica are in Mexico silly
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Old December 21st, 2005, 04:36 AM   #84
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i say no because north korea is building skyscrapers just to prove that it can, but their economy is bankrupt.
true, but they are forced by the government, and in that case nothing gets to the North Korean population (did you know that Kim Jong Il banned pregnant mothers and old people from living in Pyongyang, to keep the image of North Korea as being a young healthy nation. Also, many of the inhabitants of Pyongyang are made to fake going to work every morning, again to give tourists to Pyongyang a sense of liveliness and youth in the city)

but if they are built by private investors then it may help, citing the reasons in my first post of alleviating unemployment levels and raising the level of middle-classes in the population: the larger the business, the more jobs are open...
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Old December 21st, 2005, 04:59 AM   #85
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the poorer the country the cheaper it is to build skyscrapers.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 05:05 AM   #86
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It depends on their quality and how they compare to the size of the country/city. Nairobi may have more skyscrapers than Lisbon or Copenhagen but it doesn't make it a more developed or wealthier city.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 04:03 PM   #87
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It depends on their quality and how they compare to the size of the country/city. Nairobi may have more skyscrapers than Lisbon or Copenhagen but it doesn't make it a more developed or wealthier city.
Winnipeg has more skyscrapers than Copenhagen and Lisbon combined and thus we are more developed than both of them.
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true, but they are forced by the government, and in that case nothing gets to the North Korean population (did you know that Kim Jong Il banned pregnant mothers and old people from living in Pyongyang, to keep the image of North Korea as being a young healthy nation. Also, many of the inhabitants of Pyongyang are made to fake going to work every morning, again to give tourists to Pyongyang a sense of liveliness and youth in the city)

but if they are built by private investors then it may help, citing the reasons in my first post of alleviating unemployment levels and raising the level of middle-classes in the population: the larger the business, the more jobs are open...
It's sad. Those plan by North Korean architects were quite impressive--- their ideas are though affected by communism, they are somehow creative and clever... as I notice they are not only copy those from China and Russia, but they DO learn from North America... sadly they have really bad economy and really too secret for other parts of the world to help them... their Ryungyong Hotel could be nice, but all because of their wealth, which is poorer than Kenya.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 08:19 PM   #89
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Silly boy, So Paulo may have development problems, if you compare the city in a global scale, or with fully developed countries, but for Brazil an LATIN AMERICA, So Paulo rules as the greatest powerhouse of development and growth, inducing a geographic wave of prosperity that few cities in the world can compare.
So Paulo has the most active construction market in LATIN AMERICA, and so we have so may buildings in the city. Something that FLAT Mexico City has not the ability to produce.
About building quality, this is not a mexican especialiy (never was), as we can verify examinating the totally ordinary and ugly production of (VERY) low rise buildings built in Mexico City.
Everything that you say is wrong dude.
1.- Mexico city GDP is double than Sao Paulo
2.- The best buildings and the tallest are in Mxico City
3.- The second booming city in L.A is mexico city. (First Panama)
4.- Too "Many" buildings doesn't mean development, as in sao paulo many buildings means pooverty, cause all those buildings are old, and the only use of it are apartments, In mexico we don't have too much buildings cause MC is in a seismic zone. If you say that SP is the greatest city in L.A why you haven't building taller than MC buildings?, even MC is in a seismic zone. The tallest in SP is like 190 mts, In mexico city, 230 mts.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 10:55 PM   #90
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Some countries just build skyscrapers b/c their cities have no major zoning laws that prevent how tall they can build them.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 05:12 AM   #91
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Skyscrapers are a sign of economic development, anyone who says they aren't is wrong. But not having them is by no means an indication that a city is not economically powerful.
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 03:49 AM   #92
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the poorer the country the cheaper it is to build skyscrapers.
That is also the reason why corperations would use them for outsourcing just to avoid labor unions back in their home countries.
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 04:56 AM   #93
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The world's tallest buildings are not in 1st world nations: Taiwan, Malaysia, Dubai, China. These countries just built them to be noticed. Building the world's tallest has become a mockery.
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I find it interesting how many of those cities are still not world cities despite their construction booms.
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Yes, skyscrapers are a sign of economic development.

But having a lot of economic development doesn't mean the city of world class standard
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