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Old July 11th, 2017, 03:12 PM   #521
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Old July 15th, 2017, 11:41 AM   #522
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A very Hong Kong love affair with trams
Hong Kong Tramways boss Emmanuel Vivant wants to improve network, but knows he cannot do anything that harms Hongkongers’ attachment to the ‘ding ding’
July 8, 2017
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It was quite literally a love story. Before Emmanuel Vivant became the boss of Hong Kong’s iconic tram system, he shared a romantic moment with his wife on a “ding ding” when the couple were visiting the city several years ago.

Sitting in his office at the Whitty Street tram depot with dozens of toy trams, the managing director of Hongkong Tramways recalled how he and his Korean wife, whom he met in Paris, exchanged wedding rings on the tram after they got married elsewhere.

“We were still living in Korea at the time. We came here for a visit. We bought our wedding rings in a jewellery shop at Harbour City in Tsim Sha Tsui. Then we crossed the harbour and took the tram. We exchanged wedding rings on the tram,” Vivant said.

From 2009 to 2012, Vivant was based in Seoul where he was in charge of strategy for Asia and business development for South Korea and Southeast Asia for RATP Dev Transdev Asia (RDTA), which owns and operates Hong Kong Tramways. He is now RDTA’s chief executive officer.

The French mechanical and civil engineer came to Hong Kong as the tram’s director and general manager in 2012 and was then promoted to managing director two years later. After he arrived, the tram company made several changes such as adding air conditioning in one car during a three-month trial and a rubber coating to tram tracks to minimise noise, and introducing a new smiley logo.

The firm has also faced challenges including the blocking of tram tracks in Causeway Bay during the pro-democracy Occupy movement in 2014 and the toppling over of a vehicle in Central earlier this year.

But Vivant knows that the 110-year-old transport system cannot be changed drastically. He understands that the tramway, which he describes as “a part of Hong Kong’s heart”, is more than a just a means of public transport. He says Hongkongers undoubtedly have an emotional attachment to the “ding dings” – just as he and his wife have.

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Old July 17th, 2017, 08:34 AM   #523
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Are there any plans to extend the network to wear the MTR Metro does not go?
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Are there any plans to extend the network to wear the MTR Metro does not go?
The harbourfront extension line seems to be dead in the water, while they can't yet figure out what to do across the harbour in Kai Tak.
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The tram scene in China is very diverse. Once there are many cities where tramway networks exists, but after the notorious anti-tram sixties and seventies—only three cities kept their networks, one of them is Hong Kong. They kept the tram and gradually modified it. It is the only city in the world which has all double-decker trams, perhaps previously this city was under British Administration, and we all know that in UK, almost all tram systems has double decker trams. It is also one of the very few city which haven't closed any routes since the beginning of the service.

But the future I think is dark, because metro line Island is roughly parallel to the tramway line between Kennedy Town and Shau Kei Wan stations. Some sections of MTR tunnels are built directly under roads with tram tracks. So most people takes metro to reach much faster than tram, and obviously tram will run empty and will get loss, so gradually it will be closed, I am afraid, only one route towards Happy Valley will remain opened just as a type of heritage. Following the opening of the West Island Line, daily tramway rider ship drops 10% to 180,000.
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I thought Blackpool runs a double-decker fleet as well?
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But this is not fully double decker fleet city, which is Hongkong.
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But this is not fully double decker fleet city, which is Hongkong.
Hong Kong (Yuen Long) has single deck trams.
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But the future I think is dark, because metro line Island is roughly parallel to the tramway line between Kennedy Town and Shau Kei Wan stations. Some sections of MTR tunnels are built directly under roads with tram tracks. So most people takes metro to reach much faster than tram, and obviously tram will run empty and will get loss, so gradually it will be closed, I am afraid, only one route towards Happy Valley will remain opened just as a type of heritage. Following the opening of the West Island Line, daily tramway rider ship drops 10% to 180,000.
I don't understand the panic. The Island Line has been paralleling with the tram since the first section from Admiralty and Chai wan opened 1985. 30 years later the tram still exists. There was a proposal two years ago to close the central portion of the tram but it was quickly laughed off the table and rejected. Just like your alarmist post on the Dalian PT thread; both modes of transport serve different travel markets and can co-exist.

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Hong Kong (Yuen Long) has single deck trams.
But that is a separate non compatible, non contagious network.
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The tram is suitable for short trips, so it is marketable to the office crowd at lunch time and for those going to their nearby wet market for groceries. The fact that they are still running decades after the MTR opened means they can survive and are not really in direct competition with the faster trains.
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But that is a separate non compatible, non contagious network.
So? I was referring to: "But this is not fully double decker fleet city, which is Hongkong", which is not true, as I demonstrated with the single deck trams that run in Hong Kong.
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Yuen Long has no tram, those all are light rail. Light rail and tram are two different things.

After reading many websites I’ve recently saw some matters, which arise some questions and curiosity. I still have not found those answers in any website. I’m asking these because I want to compare the Hongkong Tram with my city’s Kolkata Tram. Both cities are running tram continuously more than a century, facing many threats for closure. Both are using trolley-poles continuously. Although the main difference is that Hongkong tram has kept open its 100% routes, whereas Kolkata tram has closed its 40% routes, and never reopened any routes. Here I’m writing—

1) Does the entire route is middle of the road ? Or sometimes on left or right side?

2) Is there any special seats for children, ladies, senior citizens and handicapped persons inside the tram cars ?

3) Is there any system for one day unlimited travel tickets ?

4) Is there any plan to extend the tram line on Kai Tak area? If yes, please write some details.

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