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Old November 9th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #2541
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is the main skyscraper on hold?
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Old November 9th, 2011, 03:38 AM   #2542
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If you understand the highest as main, federation tower was restarted recently. Now only eurasia is on hold.
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Old November 9th, 2011, 03:59 PM   #2543
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is the main skyscraper on hold?
If you're speaking about the 600-m-tall Russia Tower then this project is cancelled
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Old November 9th, 2011, 04:03 PM   #2544
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Cancelled? As never-ever built? Someone confirmed it? I just thought it was put on hold indefinitely, but that there is still will to build that someday.
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Old November 9th, 2011, 04:05 PM   #2545
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Yes, Russia Tower never bulid.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 03:54 PM   #2546
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Cancelled? As never-ever built?
Current Moscow administration stated that MIBC area is overloaded and overcrowded that will make transport collapse in the nearest future. So they cancel some projects, including the Russia Tower and the City Hall. Instead some (not yet specified) less ambitious projects of about 1/3 of total floor area will be built there.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 10:58 AM   #2547
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Old November 12th, 2011, 01:11 PM   #2548
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Hi Xombie, I think you may have misunderstood me, I am not against modern architecture at all!

The skyscrapers in Moscow's new cluster aren't modern though!

They look old fashioned to me, and very tacky and cheap.

The cladding that has gone up is awful and there seems to have been little thought about aesthetics and environment at ground level.

They are vulgar, this dosn't look like a very classy cluster!
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Old November 12th, 2011, 01:58 PM   #2549
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Hi Xombie, I think you may have misunderstood me, I am not against modern architecture at all!

The skyscrapers in Moscow's new cluster aren't modern though!

They look old fashioned to me, and very tacky and cheap.

The cladding that has gone up is awful and there seems to have been little thought about aesthetics and environment at ground level.

They are vulgar, this dosn't look like a very classy cluster!
Seriously? For example:

Emporis Awards
World's best skyscraper:
#8 Capital City Moscow Tower (Russia)
http://www.emporis.com/awards/2010

FIABCI Prix d'Excellence Awards
Federation Tower — Office Category Winner
http://www.fiabciprix.com/past-winne...ow-russia.html

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Old November 12th, 2011, 02:11 PM   #2550
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Old November 12th, 2011, 02:45 PM   #2551
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Can you elaborate on tacky and cheap? For me, MCT and FT are among the most fascinating skyscrapers on Earth.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 03:00 PM   #2552
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Old November 12th, 2011, 07:27 PM   #2553
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Yeah, of course, tacky means 'showing poor taste and quality'.

By cheap, i mean 'tastelessly showy', 'garish', 'gaudy', 'lacking in style, self restraint and class' (the choice of gold cladding is a perfect example!)
What can I say?
Also, you must know that now Moscow IBC is quite empty and dead place, and it's not so integrated into the city.
(even though AfiMall changed situation abit)
Of course, it should look better in couple of years, when it'll be completed

So, really, Imperia Tower looks very ugly, especially without aqua-park and top ruins everything
So, i like The City of Capitals, btw, especially when you stand near this building, and hall and 1st floor is pretty amazing and full of different art-objects of modern art, and i really love transition between AfiMall and this building...

Federation, hmmm, its better inside, than outside.....so, kool

I like Embankment Towers, i love those curved forms, and ceiling of Shopping Centre inside, it's very modern

I dont know why everybody like the Mercuty City Tower, ok, it may be higer than Shard in London, but it looks unaesthetic, and cladding looks old-fashioned

Afimall is huge, and the only thing i like is fountain and roof(and loooooots of shops, exactly famous and luxury(thats too much)).....

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In parts it looks a bit like what 70s film and TV makers thought the future would look like.

On the other hand you've got all the modern stores like pinkberry, there's only one of those in the UK, in London in Selfridges
Must say that
Russia is the country of wild capitalism, what can i say
And usually people care about commerical interests, not design of a building
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Old November 12th, 2011, 07:47 PM   #2554
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I also forgot to say, that all those buildings are not same, as it everywhere in the world, but have their own identity(even though that identity is very lame)
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Old November 12th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #2555
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Old November 13th, 2011, 02:21 AM   #2556
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Come on, fellas, stop feeding him, he's not worth it.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 03:07 AM   #2557
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Old November 13th, 2011, 04:40 AM   #2558
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?? Who is feeding who??

Do you have an opinion on IBC or what?
Dear sgroutage,
I have an opinion the top of new 1WTC is not as perfect as I would prefer it to be. However I don't keep coming to its thread raging on and on about how cheap, tacky, and immature it looks, how little architectural merit it has, how miserable I feel about it (and presumably New Yorkers), and how the feeling of Weltschmerz will spread across the globe when it is completed. Do I make myself clear? Or should I replace 1WTC with Shard to make it more clear?
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:13 AM   #2559
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Dear english snob, personally I think that with 5 supertall buildings MIBC just can't be compared to London or Frankfurt as they both play in lower league, sorry.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 08:14 AM   #2560
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Do you have an opinion on IBC or what?
Dear Sgroutage,

Must we overcompensate the London's architectural flaws and terrible London commieblocks with those boxes from 60s with comparison of MIBC to Shard and the Pickle? London's City is ugly as sin, but in general, London's pretty, almost. English people are too judgmental, thinking they are the beacon of the taste, political system. Your complex of supremacy is all wrong and ridiculous.
And, there is no need to tell that the dispute over taste is for intriguing trolls.
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