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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:51 PM   #2601
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Yes, you right. So let me stop on this. Teasing British guys had become too boring deal.
Also, have you been to Docklands?
And not all british mates are so snob like him....
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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:52 PM   #2602
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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:53 PM   #2603
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Do you have a view on the IBC?
Yes. I agree with the point of view that scale of construction puts MIBC in a higher league than London. I also think that complaining about lack of people in a project that is 5 years away from completion is pointless.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:54 PM   #2604
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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:55 PM   #2605
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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:56 PM   #2606
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Yes, i have been to the Docklands, what is your point?
No, i asked AlexseyVT, cant you read Quotes?
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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #2607
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If im honest, no i havn't changed my opinion at all!

Your pictures just prove my point! There are hardly any people in your pictures, do people actually work there?

It strikes me that the IBC is just a vanity project. Moscow builds a few skyscrapers to try and compete with the likes of London, Frankfurt and New York, but there is no substance to the development.

London does not build skyscrapers for the sake of it, only because there is real demand and people want to do business in London, even Russians!

The ironic thing for me, is that a lot of money has been spent on the IBC in Moscow, in an attempt to rival London as a major business and financial centre. Some people who have responded to my posts are claiming that London is 'lower league' do not really understand this!

The Moscow IBC has not succeeded at all, in fact your photos only go to prove my points. Where are the business's, where are the workers? The IBC looks like a terrible place to do business!

The IBC is not a credible threat to London and the architecture (the original point to my posts!) is awful!
Naberezhnaya Tower















Federation Tower

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Old November 13th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #2608
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:03 PM   #2609
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This is a public forum, send him a message if you want a private conversation or do you not know how to send them? (touche)
it's IBC-related question, btw
Such questions are forbidden here in the forum? How on Earth?


The highest point of idiocy will be saying that cladding is rubbish!

(so, shard has little better cladding, of course, so though here it's proper and awesome)
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #2611
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The highest point of idiocy? I dont think my valid point qualifies!
I didnt mean the Mercury City Tower, i mean those previous pics that showed us the cladding of Embankment tower and Federation Tower
And yeah that one looks cheap
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:12 PM   #2612
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:13 PM   #2613
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My argument is that Moscow will not be able attract enough tenants in order to do this. Read between the lines.
When it will be completed, it will be vibrant
It's a time matter!
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #2614
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Also, have you been to Docklands?
No, I haven't been.

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And not all british mates are so snob like him....
Well, let me to hope on this.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #2615
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:16 PM   #2617
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Its hardly idiotic to discuss the quality of cladding on an architecture forum then is it!
Skyscrapercity is not architectural forum yet

Cant u notice separate architectural section here
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #2618
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No, I haven't been.
It's true example of rationalism, and at least it looks completed.




Now compare to Moscow IBC


Which one is better?
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #2620
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, I was eluding to the point that the IBC's aim is to become a world financial centre and to usurp London.
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Where did you get this information from? I mean the IBC's aim is to usurp London.
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