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Old November 13th, 2011, 08:17 PM   #2641
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Dallas, for example


IMO, this is disgusting for me
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Old November 13th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #2642
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My point is
maybe, for someone looks cheap and tacky, but imo there are worse example of architecture though

At least, its better than Mexico City or Caracas, it's very good attempt btw

Moscow is not the city of the 1st world, but attempt of creating moscow skyline by this us nice, at least, compared to others
buildings have their own identity, at least, theyre not same, theyre unique
(even though some of projects were realized not so good)
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Old November 13th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #2643
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The list of largest tenants in the Naberezhnaya Towers:
IBM (USA)
General Electric (USA)
Symantec (USA)
Citibank (USA)
Nortel Networks (Canada)
Bunge Limited (USA)
Standard Bank (South Africa)
KPMG (Netherlands)
Oracle Corporation (USA)
Toshiba Corporation (Japan)
Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation (Japan)
E.ON AG (Germany)
Lucent Technologies (USA)
Medtronic (USA)
Becton Dickinson (USA)
+ many other Russian bank and enterprises
That's an impressive list. Thanks for the info.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #2644
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Well, in my opinion only Imperia tower looks kinda cheap and its cladding is of poor quality. MCT will probably look incomplete without the spire and out of place with it's copper-colored cladding but it doesn't look cheap too. The rest of the buildings looks great I think and would look even better when the whole complex is complete.
As for the fact that there are few people there it's important to note that MIBC is still a mostly a huge construction site. It's being built in place of an old industrial zone and there is little reason for people who are not working here or haven't come for shopping to Afimall to be there. Only a few buildings are fully complete yet, and these ones do not stand empty. The complex will only become fully operational in a few years when the rest of the towers and most importantly it's transport infrastructure are complete. There is a gigantic interchange being built in close vicinity and also the Transport Terminal.
I'd like to note that the idea for building the MIBC came not to rival some other city, but because until mid 90s there were exactly zero A-class offices in Moscow, they haven't been exactly of high demand under the Socialist rule. And most likely they will be of much use soon - due to Russia becoming a WTO member it's going to lift restrictions on operations of international financial and insurance companies. Pretty sure they won't miss the opportunity to work directly with one of the world's largest economies and will need some office space.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 05:05 AM   #2645
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Dear Scroutage,

Again, please, do a favor to all UK, do not raise the question of whether London and England in overall is anyhow supreme to any other country, particularly to Russia and Moscow. This is a very cheap thing to do, as I said, english people have some sort of complex of supremacy with no actual solid ground to say that. Yes, perhaps, comparison of London to Moscow does a honor to London, maybe doesn't, but I warn you that you look ridiculous in the eyes of other people with such point. To me UK and London are noting but a lair of chavs, with no taste, with terrible cockney English, obsessed with football, London's City (and this is my taste, and even though I don't usually expose my taste preferences, you asked for this) is ugly and very artificial, it does not have any architectural value, it's a cheap copying of NYC's style, London has some gems here and there, but in general - London is lost to architecture of 60s and 70s, it's full of commieblocks and bad taste. English people like you are certainly a disgrace and you make a piece of laughter here, and I am sure, you re not a beacon of taste.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 05:27 AM   #2646
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IBC is gorgeous. I love all buildings, current and future, except for the Mercury Tower because of the golden cladding.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 08:21 AM   #2647
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Old November 14th, 2011, 01:07 PM   #2648
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So, actually Canary Wharf, was one of the poorest districts of London(it still has some contrasts) and it was industrial too
Moscow IBC is situated in very uncomfortable place, its situated too close to the centre, and transport connections here are uncomfortable

And once again, as many users said here, it will look much better when it will be completed,

At least, i can say that MCT looks very american, and ok, i dont like that golden cladding


Of course, quality of glass is quite better than I thought
Though looks old-fashioned for me, and so on



And dear Scroutage,
i have one question for you,
do you recognize that some buildings here are real examples of quality architecture?

And good pics, Night City Dream
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Old November 14th, 2011, 01:28 PM   #2649
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quality architecture differs between the viewer ^
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Old November 14th, 2011, 01:29 PM   #2650
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Old November 14th, 2011, 02:11 PM   #2651
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everyone please just calm down and stop this bashing contest. skyscrapers in moscow look nice and they all have great architecture as much as the towers in london have. you guys should appreciate the potential, energy and the strength of these two cities. construction in moscow is booming and it is a very positive thing to see. i have a feeling that the financial strength of moscow will be getting stronger and stronger in the future but at the moment it has a long way to catch up with london in this aspect. this doesn't mean moscow is weak but it is the different way of how the city is run. london has such a very long history and powerful reputation when it comes to banking, trading, business activities, insurance and other financial services etc plus being an english speaking city it has the edge over moscow. in this aspect there is the only another city which can be compared is new york. don't underestimate their strength, their financial clout is massive even on the global scale. sorry for this essay, as for me, i am very proud of what moscow has achieved so far, it's cluster looks impressive, congratulations.

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Old November 14th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #2652
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everyone please just calm down and stop this bashing contest. skyscrapers in moscow look nice and they all have great architecture as much as the towers in london have. you guys should appreciate the potential, energy and the strength of these two cities. construction in moscow is booming and it is a very positive thing to see. i have a feeling that the financial strength of moscow will be getting stronger and stronger in the future but at the moment it has a long way to catch up with london in this aspect. this doesn't mean moscow is weak but it is the different way of how the city is run. london has such a very long history and powerful reputation when it comes to banking, trading, business activities, insurance and other financial services etc plus being an english speaking city it has the edge over moscow. in this aspect there is the only another city which can be compared is new york. don't underestimate their strength, their financial clout is massive even on the global scale. sorry for this essay, as for me, i am very proud of what moscow has achieved so far, it's cluster looks impressive, congratulations.
Though i still dont like some buildings(Imperia Tower and MCT), cause they look unfashionable
I think Moscow IBC is the nice place though
Even though of some obvious disadvantages
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Old November 14th, 2011, 05:15 PM   #2653
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Old November 14th, 2011, 07:13 PM   #2654
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In terms of what? Skyscrapers, prestige, wealth, financial kudos? No matter how smugly you presume that NYC still rules over America, it certainly ain't ruling over the world anymore.



Wishful thinking...
Fact.

1 WTC, 2 WTC, 3 WTC, and One57 are 4 supertalls currently under construction. 432 Park Ave is in prep and will start rising next year, that's 5. Torre Verre, and the 2 Hudson Park supertalls have the go ahead as well.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 09:35 PM   #2655
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If you act like that in real life prepare shit to be kicked out of you

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Dear english snob

Do we have to resort to such childish comments?

Are you not mature enough to have a sensible argument?

Can you not be objective without getting emotional?

Do i have to start calling you a Russian farmer, hillbilly or village idiot? I hope not!

The skyscrapers in MIBC look like they were designed by a child, it wasn't you was it?

You dont really expect to have a sensible argument by claiming that London is lower league, do you? This comment is so incredulous it is laughable. I could debunk your statement in one sentence, but frankly i dont think that you actually believe your own statement.

Just a final thought...

How many Russians live in London?
How many Brits live in Moscow?

Case closed!
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Old November 14th, 2011, 09:57 PM   #2656
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Old November 14th, 2011, 10:01 PM   #2657
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Old November 15th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #2658
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Thank you! this stupid, immature, and block headed discussion died out.
btw the MCT glass is ugly because it has not been cleaned yet, like the Shard
but they cleaned some of it and it looks much better (same as in Mercury City Tower.)
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Old November 15th, 2011, 04:14 AM   #2659
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Lots of bitching and lack of arguments.

Yes both financial centres are great, but moscow's was planned to grow bigger, well that's the impression it gives me since I saw many models with some other buildings still to build, and of course is newer.

Chill out.
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Old November 15th, 2011, 05:00 AM   #2660
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