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View Poll Results: High-rise Capital of the World is...
China 212 41.17%
Brazil 52 10.10%
USA 239 46.41%
A three way tie 12 2.33%
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 01:17 AM   #81
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I would have to go with China because of the massive construction craze going in that country. in a few years it wont be recognizable.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 01:19 AM   #82
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Again this thread is about high rises, USA have less High-rises than China, and China have less High-Rises than Brazil.
This thread is about quantity not quality.
And it's necesary to make a poll to know a statistic data?
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 03:16 AM   #83
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We're not comparing museums, newer and shining buildings are better than older ones, at least for skyscrapers.
Once again, that's strictly your opinion. I'd take an old art deco skyscraper over a new modern one anyday.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 03:58 AM   #84
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USA for variety and China for newness. As for Sao Paulo, the tallest building in the city was built in 1960 and is around 600 feet tall. Brazil does not belong in this poll. They do not have any supertalls.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 04:13 AM   #85
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Again, this poll is about high rises (A high-rise is any building with 12+ stories, or 35m+), not about supertalls, not about skyscraper, not about quality, not about what country have the most beautifull buildings.
The question is what country have more High rises, is so difficult to people understand a simple question like that?

USA don´t have more high-rises than Brazil or China.

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Old January 2nd, 2006, 04:28 AM   #86
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^How many times are you gonna say that?

We get it, Brazil has more, ours are just better!
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 04:57 AM   #87
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Until the people understand the question.
And yes, the USA high rises are really, really better, but Brazil have many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many more.
But as Brazil has many more high rises, we have a bigger number of beautiful high rises we only lose in %
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 06:41 AM   #88
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Until the people understand the question.
And yes, the USA high rises are really, really better, but Brazil have many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many more.
But as Brazil has many more high rises, we have a bigger number of beautiful high rises we only lose in %
But what you don't seem to understand is that simply having the most of something doesn't automatically make you the "capital of..." whatever topic you are talking about. Quantity, quality, leadership (innovation) and perception are all factors in deciding the mythical title of capital. With this in mind, Brazil doesn't necessarily deserve the title of "capital of the high-rises," no matter how many times you attempt to frame the question.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 06:59 AM   #89
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Until the people understand the question.
And yes, the USA high rises are really, really better, but Brazil have many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many more.
But as Brazil has many more high rises, we have a bigger number of beautiful high rises we only lose in %
According to Emporis, China has more highrises than Brazil because China has HK! And the quality is far far better. Refer to statistics please!

It's common sense! A rapidly developing country with 1.3B population + one most urbanised city in the world (HK) VS a country of 200M population. For numbers, it should be the former one, obvious!
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:03 AM   #90
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But what you don't seem to understand is that simply having the most of something doesn't automatically make you the "capital of..." whatever topic you are talking about. Quantity, quality, leadership (innovation) and perception are all factors in deciding the mythical title of capital. With this in mind, Brazil doesn't necessarily deserve the title of "capital of the high-rises," no matter how many times you attempt to frame the question.
Thank you. In this kind of thread, its is not quantity. You need height and designs. I go with China for futuristic towers and US for variety.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:10 AM   #91
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Unless the topic creator said so earlier and I missed it, this poll must be about more than just quantity. You don't ask for people's opinions if you already know the data. So you must take into account quality/history/etc. in addition to quantity, otherwise there's no need for this poll and topic.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:20 AM   #92
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According to Emporis, China has more highrises than Brazil because China has HK! And the quality is far far better. Refer to statistics please!

It's common sense! A rapidly developing country with 1.3B population + one most urbanised city in the world (HK) VS a country of 200M population. For numbers, it should be the former one, obvious!
Even if without HK, China would have more high-rises than Brazil.

Also, Brazil is a rapidly developing country as well! But the country lack world class skyscrapers compared to The US or China!
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:42 AM   #93
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I think that this poll evaluates the quality of the highrises of those three countries. That's a debatable thing!
Wrong! In establishing the criteria for this thread, Rwarky did not include quality. Click on page 1 of this thread and read for yourself.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 03:43 PM   #94
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marathoner
According to Emporis, China has more highrises than Brazil because China has HK! And the quality is far far better. Refer to statistics please!

It's common sense! A rapidly developing country with 1.3B population + one most urbanised city in the world (HK) VS a country of 200M population. For numbers, it should be the former one, obvious!
Brazil is a rapidly developing Country one of the BRIC.

Like i said emporis data for Brazil is wrong, emporis have 3 editors for all Brazil, a country with the same size of USA without Alaska and 200M pop.
São Paulo is the second most urbanised city in the world and 70% of your inhabitants live in High Rises: Almost 9.000.000 people, you really belive than 9.000.000 of people live in 3.000 buildings like Emporis said?
Belo Horizonte have 500KM² of land area with 3.000.000 inhabitants, do you think than all this people live in houses?

And like Panamaniac said, the autor just whant to know what coutry is the World Capital of high rises in quantity.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 03:57 PM   #95
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China !! no doubt.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 05:42 PM   #96
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Quote:
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Brazil is a rapidly developing Country one of the BRIC.

Like i said emporis data for Brazil is wrong, emporis have 3 editors for all Brazil, a country with the same size of USA without Alaska and 200M pop.
São Paulo is the second most urbanised city in the world and 70% of your inhabitants live in High Rises: Almost 9.000.000 people, you really belive than 9.000.000 of people live in 3.000 buildings like Emporis said?
Belo Horizonte have 500KM² of land area with 3.000.000 inhabitants, do you think than all this people live in houses?

And like Panamaniac said, the autor just whant to know what coutry is the World Capital of high rises in quantity.
Even suppose Emporis data is incorrect or incomplete (quite possible), China still has more highrises than Brazil. Because China data can also be underrated if Brazil data is underrated. It's reasonable because of the huge population and urbaniszation of China.

BTW, the 7000 highrises number of HK seems to be underrated because I think at least 90% of people (at least 6.1M) in HK are living in highrises. 7000 highrises cannot house 6.1M people supposing the average height is not taller than 30 stories and the number of flats per storey is usually less than 8.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 06:10 PM   #97
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In São Paulo the number of flats per storey is a maximum of 5 the average height is 20 stories.

China or Brazil have more High-Rises than USA, but in China (And Hong Kong too) have the commie blocks one huge building with many people living, in Brazil exist only a building like that The Copan.
Anyway
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 06:18 PM   #98
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Originally Posted by touchring
We're not comparing museums, newer and shining buildings are better than older ones, at least for skyscrapers.

This is so not true. There are ugly uninspired buildings that are "modern" built just within the last few years and there are masterpieces that are among those beautifull that were built 70 years ago. Age has very little to do with a scrapers beauty.
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Wrong! In establishing the criteria for this thread, Rwarky did not include quality. Click on page 1 of this thread and read for yourself.
I'm reading it:

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China, Brazil, and the United States have something distinctly common, lots of high-rise buildings (examples: skyscrapers, apartment buildings and condos, etc). In your mind and if possible, with facts, which nation can call itself highrise capital of the world?
From that I see a few things. First, what's considered a high-rise building. Second, use your own opinion as well as some facts to justify them to create a "highrise capital of the world."

Again, there is no need for polls if you're comparing facts. ex. "Which is taller: the Empire State Building or the Burj Dubai?" Well we all know the answer to that, so why does the poll taker need reassurance for such a question? Now when rephrased, "Which is better, keeping in mind both height, quality, and history?" you have something debatable and a need for a poll.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:04 PM   #100
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I voted for USA as the homeland of skyscrapers, but China will soon take over
the "High-rise Capital of the World" title.
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