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Old June 1st, 2006, 11:19 PM   #41
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Old June 3rd, 2006, 06:22 PM   #42
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I went to see An Inconvenient Truth (SEE IT! IT"S A MUST) at the Century theatre last (Fri) night. I never saw any suburb buzz at night the way Evanston does on a night like this. That critical mass of restaurants, theatres, stores, and high rise condos really creates a wonderful urban feel. Gotta love what's happening in Evanston.
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Old June 3rd, 2006, 08:46 PM   #43
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Old June 4th, 2006, 07:39 PM   #44
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Old June 6th, 2006, 04:58 PM   #45
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Fountain Square tower would preserve landmark facade

Developer Thomas Roszak says his proposal for a 38-story hotel and condo tower on the Fountain Square block would preserve the facade of the landmark Hahn Building at mid-block but replace everything else on the site.
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Old June 6th, 2006, 07:18 PM   #46
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a 38 storey condo/hotel in fountain square sounds damned exciting. but is there a downside to the extent of this high rise construction boom in downtown evanston.

few cities of evanston's size can claim not a freeway or expressway in sight. what are the implications for streets like Chicago Ave, Church, Ridge, Sherman, Green Bay Rd, even Sheridan for the type of traffic that they will be expected to carry?
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Old June 6th, 2006, 08:00 PM   #47
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^ i fail to see how shitty traffic is a bad thing. all the best urban places have shitty traffic. shitty traffic is just a symptom of high desirability, and high-desirability is a very good thing for any downtown environment. plus, shitty traffic encourages more people to walk instead of drive, and that also has a HUGE positive impact on downtown areas.

we as a society simply MUST drag ourselves out of the "traffic = bad" mentality if we ever want to create new successful urban environments.
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Old June 6th, 2006, 10:49 PM   #48
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^ i fail to see how shitty traffic is a bad thing. all the best urban places have shitty traffic. shitty traffic is just a symptom of high desirability, and high-desirability is a very good thing for any downtown environment. plus, shitty traffic encourages more people to walk instead of drive, and that also has a HUGE positive impact on downtown areas.

we as a society simply MUST drag ourselves out of the "traffic = bad" mentality if we ever want to create new successful urban environments.
dan, i don't disagree with you at all. my contention here is that evanston will have a helluva harder time pulling off the ill effects of traffic than chicago. outside the downtown district, despite bus and rapid transit, the car still rules in much of evanston.
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Old June 7th, 2006, 01:09 AM   #49
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But the city itself is "hot". And getting more and more expensive. What are the implictions of this growth on Evanston's future. More specifically, how will it affect Evanston's minority community? ?
Well if the minorities are wealthy or above middle income they will be able to live or move into Evanston...it is a very tolerant city.

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With rising land prices and the highly desirable location, how will this all play out in places like Evanston's African American community?
So is your assumption that the African American community is always poor? If you want to make this a race issue then I will fight you on it. If you want to discuss the fact that Evanston is becoming less and less economically diverse I will agree with you.

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Will such accessability and desirability cause Evanston to go more "upscale" and displace its significant and priced out minority communities?
Yes it will. Kind of gives people goals to work for if they love it that much "don'tcha think"?
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Old June 7th, 2006, 01:11 AM   #50
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a 38 storey condo/hotel in fountain square sounds damned exciting. but is there a downside to the extent of this high rise construction boom in downtown evanston.

few cities of evanston's size can claim not a freeway or expressway in sight. what are the implications for streets like Chicago Ave, Church, Ridge, Sherman, Green Bay Rd, even Sheridan for the type of traffic that they will be expected to carry?
Lol..means more people will be using the CTA and Metra! Isn't that fantastic news!!!! If people love cars move to Schaumburg.
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Old June 7th, 2006, 02:03 AM   #51
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Old June 7th, 2006, 03:26 AM   #52
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Lol..means more people will be using the CTA and Metra! Isn't that fantastic news!!!! If people love cars move to Schaumburg.
neither CTA or Metra will effectively get Evanstonians to much of Skokie, Wilmette, Highland Park, etc....and none of Lincolnwood, Glenview, Park Ridge or any number of north suburban locations where Evanstonians are likely to go.

Chgo3, this has far less to do with what SHOULD BE than the reality on the ground...and the reality on the ground in Evanston (an urbanized a suburb as it may be) that dependence on cars is still appreciable. would it be a better world if that weren't the case? sure. but it is the case.
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Old June 7th, 2006, 05:22 AM   #53
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That's a great news for evanston!
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Old June 7th, 2006, 06:25 AM   #54
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Well if the minorities are wealthy or above middle income they will be able to live or move into Evanston...it is a very tolerant city.



So is your assumption that the African American community is always poor? If you want to make this a race issue then I will fight you on it. If you want to discuss the fact that Evanston is becoming less and less economically diverse I will agree with you.


Yes it will. Kind of gives people goals to work for if they love it that much "don'tcha think"?
chicago3rd, i'm not sure what i did to you that made you respond to each of my posts with sarcasam. but you have.

of course not all of evanston's african american community is low income. but much is. and certainly the area around dodge and church, the most historical part of black evanston, has large numbers of low income african americans.

it also has an institution, ETHS, that would defy any notion that evanston embraces diversity and inclusion. students are so tracked at Evanston Hi (my alma mater) that blacks and whites don't even see each other in many classes.

my comments, i thought, were a clear indictation that i would regret evanston losing diversity. I hardly think that it is a stretch that African Americans have been squeezed out of areas when gentrifcation takes place in our area, particularly in Chicago itself.

Meanwhile, as far as the "car" issue, I'm a realist...i'd love to see more rapid transit, but people still drive and that reality has to be dealt with.

ultimately, chicago 3rd, you can say whatever you want. that's your perogative. but i personally have to say that i can't understand the anomisity and disrespect you've shown me. i don't believe i've said anything offensive and if i disagree with you, i'll disagree with what you say, not with personal pot shots.
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Old June 7th, 2006, 07:34 AM   #55
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Hey Steely are you going to add this to your mini-boom......what is the height? any idea
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Old June 8th, 2006, 09:35 PM   #56
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Fountain Square - Evanston

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Here is what is there now.

North Side of the Block (left side of Picture) Street is Church:

North East Corner of the Proposed Project (left side of the Picture) Street is Church:

From the South looking at the East Side of the block (left side of the Picture) Street is Orrington:

The East Side of the block from the North East looking south (right side of the picture) Street is Orrington:


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Old June 8th, 2006, 10:26 PM   #57
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i like that two story low rise building on that block,
its not a must save though, but i dont think its needs to be developed/destroyed unless the building is going to be AMAZING.
the present building at the corner by the fountain is really ugly
and should be demolished.
it seems that evanstonians or their planning comission is WAY too into setbacks
the proposed tower should just go up at the corner by the fountain,
what a waste of space to knock down the old two story building just so that a tower can have a silly setback.
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Old June 9th, 2006, 05:39 PM   #58
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Old June 15th, 2006, 04:22 AM   #59
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A site* I can't mention says that those ads are actually part of a video screen and that there might be a [inter]national competition to design the war memorial and such.

The screen puts a new spin on the development- not sure I like the idea.
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^ it's all moot anyway as i'm fairly convinced that this project ain't gonna happen.
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