Orlando...a big city

[kevin22]

Originally Posted by Maki-chan

awww boohoo. Orlando>Fort lauderdale.

For lauderdale skyline is better than ours but we are the 4th biggest city our metro is like second biggest or something..third or second.
"The Orlando-Kissimmee, Florida, Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), also known as the Orlando Area, Metro Orlando or (more colloquially) Greater Orlando, is the state of Florida's third most populated metropolitan region, and the 28th-largest metro area in the United States. "

maiki chan, fort laurdele is part of the miami metro area

[Hanshin-Tigress]

I know that smart one, he is talking only about Fort lauderdale. I dont see how it is bigger than Orlando, metro or not.
Though its skyline is better than ours..But i dont see why it deserves the title anymore than we do.

[Hia-leah JDM]

Orlando is Floridas 6th largest City if im not wrong.
its:
1. Jacksonville
2. Miami
3.Tampa
4. St. Pete
5.Hialeah
6.Orlando

[Hanshin-Tigress]

by population?

[Hisma]

city limits population
it's 3rd by metro numbers. City limit numbers are meaningless.

[Hia-leah JDM]

I meant the actual city population.

[F-L-A]

A city doesn't "deserve" to be a certain size? That has to be one of the stupidest things I've read on here lately, and that's saying something. He didn't even get the size right!

[zerobullchip]

Originally Posted by F-L-A

A city doesn't "deserve" to be a certain size? That has to be one of the stupidest things I've read on here lately, and that's saying something. He didn't even get the size right!

I'm doing all I can to not post a word

[jzquince69]

Originally Posted by gregmiami305

orlando doesn't deserve the title as the 4th biggest city in florida.
it should belong to ft.lauderdale
Ft.Lauderdale has a skyline of a city with the population of 400k-600k
its a bigger and better skyline than Orlando but based on city limits its only around 180k

first of all, those two condos in the foreground are at Port Everglades; they're not even in downtown FTL.

I'll give you Las Olas Riverhouse, but that's it. otherwise, downtown orlando has more development DT.

besides what does your OPINION about who has the better skyline have to do with which city is regarded as Florida's 4th largest? one has nothing to do with the other.

again, can people please start making more sense with their posts please.

[jzquince69]

Originally Posted by zerobullchip

I'm doing all I can to not post a word

based on some of the c-rap I've been reading lately coming out of SOFLA, you seem tame... and intelligent... past rants aside of course.

[F-L-A]

Originally Posted by zerobullchip

I'm doing all I can to not post a word

Please do. I can laugh when you get suspended yet again.

[Christop]

and, "According to the census report, the city of Orlando increased the most -- 6,936 residents -- for a total of 220,186 people."

Florida growing? Not every city . . .
Some in Seminole see modest declines in census estimates. It has much to do with available land.

Babita Persaud | Sentinel Staff Writer
June 28, 2007


While most of Central Florida is growing, some cities in Seminole County have seen a decline in population, a U.S. census report out today shows.

The biggest drop was in Altamonte Springs, with 408 fewer residents in 2006 than in the previous year. Casselberry's population fell 213 residents, and there were 86 fewer people in Longwood.

Winter Park was the largest city in Orange County to lose residents -- 119 people, making its total population 28,083.


The losses aren't significant, population experts say, and reflect how much a city is built out.

"The numbers are going to wobble," said Phil Penland, city manager for Altamonte Springs. "Unless we do large-scale annexation, we are not going to see our population rise."

He said Altamonte Springs has a long-term redevelopment plan for high-rises near its Uptown area, and the city expects population gains in the next two to three years.

But currently, Penland said, "we are not seeing large groups of people leaving our neighborhoods."

According to the census report, the city of Orlando increased the most -- 6,936 residents -- for a total of 220,186 people.

Other Central Florida cities increasing in numbers: Sanford added 1,853 people; Winter Garden, 1,578.

Kissimmee grew by 1,509 people (total of 60,894), and Apopka is up 1,162 residents for a total of 35,563. In recent years, Apopka has annexed nearby land in unincorporated Orange County, which has added to its population boost. Much of the land is being redeveloped.

"We are only about 50 percent built out," said Richard Anderson, Apopka's chief administrative officer.

The census report is part of a series of population estimates released annually and does not reflect an exact head count, which will come in 2010. The numbers released today are for the period between July 1, 2005, and July 1, 2006. State and county figures were released earlier this year.

Nationally, New York was the most populous city, with 8.2 million residents, according to the census report. Phoenix had the largest population increase, adding more than 43,000 residents to reach 1.5 million.

The most populous cities were near the Mexican border, the report found. The 2006 estimates show that seven of the top 10 are in states that border Mexico.

Nearly a century ago, in 1910, all 10 of the most populous cities were within roughly 500 miles of the Canadian border. Only three of the top 10 from 1910 remained on the list in 2006: New York, Chicago and Philadelphia.

Florida had two cities among the 10 fastest-growing: Port St. Lucie and Cape Coral.

Babita Persaud can be reached at bpersaud@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-6088.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...l_tab01_layout

[Dave01walk]

"He said Altamonte Springs has a long-term redevelopment plan for high-rises near its Uptown area, and the city expects population gains in the next two to three years."



^ Does anyone know anything about this quote or what development plans their talking about?

[jzquince69]

Uptown Altamonte, I presume:

[Hanshin-Tigress]

did you take all of those yourself?
Altamonte is slowly looking more urban

[Dave01walk]

Wow, uptown has alot of good stuff going on! BTW, the building that looks sort of like a candy cane...when are they going to finish that thing? Isn't that being built for a minister or something?

[jzquince69]

I only took the first two from I-4. The last one is from a fellow poster at UP-- can't remember who right now.

the others are from the Uptown website.

as for the Majesty Bldg. and when it will get done: my money is on the market bouncing back for yet another boom before it gets done... it's like those Westgate Towers... (or at least the eastern tower)...

[drjnieto]

Is the Majesty building ever going to get done.

[Big Duval]

Originally Posted by jvance75

I totally agree with you Smiley...but because of the competitiveness of trying to retain, gain, and court business to metros and cities, a lot of the data is manipulated to give the view that a certain area is more desirable than others in this state. Not attacking Orlando, this can also be seen when Jax consolidated for the sake of sprawl but in reality also had the effect of Jacksonville being on every single publication that comes out about information on Florida as the largest city, and this will continue for decades to come. This was because they really were losing their grip in this state as being a major player to its new shiny boomtowns to the south that were once only a citrus city or mainly tourist related economy. Colliers-Arnold publications just follow what cities define, but this is the kind of crap I keep saying companies look at initially to even get a city in the running for a possible expansion, relocation, headquarters. Another example to not cause any problems with Jacksonville posters, this can be seen with every single city that can in the United States to annex more land into their city or gain a county in the metro area(which Atlanta does a lot compared to other southern cities, 28 counties and counting)...not only for the extra taxes that come for the city or sprawl into more counties, but also for the gain that comes along on every single list. Example: most large advertising campaigns only want the top 20 DMA(Nielsen) markets in the United States a lot of the times, hence this benefits local television stations in Tampa/St. Petersburg/Clearwater(Sarasota)(12),Miami/Ft. Lauderdale(17), and now Orlando(20).

I think if Jacksonville had not made that move, it would not be what it is today, a very competitive city that can and does bring in Fortune 500 companies....I am not saying that is the only reason, but just to get a look you have to be something worth looking at on paper.

Consoildation in 1968 was to keep Jax from going "BLACK" That I Mean control to an all black city!

[pantherpaddler]

Originally Posted by noland123

Do you thinks its possible for a city like Miami with it's 35 independent municipalities to consolidate its government?

maybe a two-tier system of local government is ideal...
with every part of a county either part of a city, eliminating donut-holes of un-annexed land and making services more efficient. The county would have a regionally-representative government to consolidate power. Each city would maintain its identity through zoning control and local services, like parks. But the county can take care of regional-level police, fire, and infrastructure (transportation, water, sewer, ports, stadiums, schools). But there would be a clear separation of which functions fall into the city or county level of authority. Perhaps some areas without residences could be special districts strictly under county administration, like ports, conservation areas, business or industrial districts.

this would be similar to how NYC's boroughs have some autonomy within NYC (counties within a city). But the scale of NYC is not really comparable to any other metro area, since each borough is bigger in population than most central cities. Are there any other examples of this type of government around the US?