NEW YORK CITY - Madison Square Garden (19,763)

[ElTuco]

Some people are criticizing it purely because it's an old building and doesn't luke so modern, but did you know it's actually very high on NBA rankings?

Few arenas in the NBA have the atmosphere of the MSG, Kobe and Lebron (even Jordan in his time) have recognized they enjoy playing there because of the atmosphere, the lightning, and the fans. Like a read on a NBA site "some people say it's a dump, hey! it's a classy dump"

[nyrmetros]

Atmosphere is everything to me. creature comforts are worthless if the atmosphere s$cks.

[Jim856796]

If Madison Square Garden's interior were changed, i would gut the interior structure and put in a lower tier with 20 rows of seating, an upper tier with five rows of seating, and luxury boxes at the very top of the arena, completely around the seating bowl. The Populous Sports Facilities Group should have designed a future renovation of the structure. but now another firm is doing the job.

[PepMan]

Originally Posted by Lord David

Time for a new arena maybe? Say a 30,000 convertible one at the rail yards (the proposed backup site for the NYC's 2012 Olympic Stadium)?

Perhaps the "demolished" Madison Square Garden could turn into an actual garden? Naturally one would want to propose some sort of MSG museum there.

Less seats. No scoreboard.

OT: Any updates and a comparision of the 1968 MSG, 1991 MSG, and 2012 MSG?

[mrakbaseball]

Originally Posted by ElTuco

Some people are criticizing it purely because it's an old building and doesn't luke so modern, but did you know it's actually very high on NBA rankings?

Few arenas in the NBA have the atmosphere of the MSG, Kobe and Lebron (even Jordan in his time) have recognized they enjoy playing there because of the atmosphere, the lightning, and the fans. Like a read on a NBA site "some people say it's a dump, hey! it's a classy dump"

MSG undoubtedly had a better atmosphere during Jordan's career than Kobe and LBJ's. The Knicks and Bulls had an actual rivalry, and the Knicks weren't losing 60+ games a year. Kobe and James, when they are referring to MSG as "the Mecca of basketball" are just repeating what Jordan had stated in the past and are not basing that on any personal experiences.

[nyrmetros]

Originally Posted by PepMan

OT: Any updates and a comparision of the 1968 MSG, 1991 MSG, and 2012 MSG?

Would like to see that myself

[ryebreadraz]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

MSG undoubtedly had a better atmosphere during Jordan's career than Kobe and LBJ's. The Knicks and Bulls had an actual rivalry, and the Knicks weren't losing 60+ games a year. Kobe and James, when they are referring to MSG as "the Mecca of basketball" are just repeating what Jordan had stated in the past and are not basing that on any personal experiences.

Kobe was in the league for several years when the Knicks were very good and MSG has an incredible atmosphere. LeBron, not so much, but any players with an appreciation for basketball history are ok in my book.

[mrakbaseball]

Originally Posted by ryebreadraz

Kobe was in the league for several years when the Knicks were very good and MSG has an incredible atmosphere. LeBron, not so much, but any players with an appreciation for basketball history are ok in my book.

In the early years of Kobe's career possibly. Kobe Bryant was a rookie during the '96-'97 season. The ASG in 1998 was at MSG in which Bryant was a starter for the West. The Knicks were in the Finals in 1999, but due to the shortened season the Lakers didn't play the Knicks during the regular season. The Knicks have been an disaster for LeBron James's entire career. The Knicks no longer sell out games on a regular basis.

[1772]

What do they do with the ice when their is a consert?
I know they just lay the basketball floor over it when the Knicks play, but when there is an extensive non-hockey use; like a consert or a convention; is the ice still there?

[chrisbramley85]

that penn station is BEAUTIFUL!! shame its not there anymore

[Anubis2051]

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[Dallas boi]

MSG is ugly!

[Greece]

It is my favorite arena!

[sweet-d]

I'm sorry to say to this but this has to be one of the dumbest idea's ever madson square garden has had it's time it's time to build a new arena. It's actually not a very big arena when compared to other arena's. The only reason why it makes a lot of money is because well it's in new york how can it not make money. Now the renovations do look impressive but this could get ugly if there are too many cost over runs and there will be some because msg is an old building and unexpected problems will happen.

[Benn]

It's pretty much right in line with the rest of the NBA and NHL, I guess one could argue it should be larger than the rest, but it seems to be fine in terms of size, and as long as its mostly private money who cares how they spend it? Also its nice they are keeping the ceiling, I'm not a huge fan of the new bowl but at least it will look sort of unique.

[Dallas boi]

They should build another Area!

[The Game Is Up]

There's already a website where you can follow the renovations underway: http://msgtransformation.com/Transformation.aspx

[Jim856796]

Phase one of the MSG Transformation:
* Lower Bowl
* Madison Concourse (6th Floor)
* Event Level Suites
* Delta Sky360 Club
* Locker Rooms

Phase two of the MSG Transformation:
* Upper Bowl
* Garden Concourse (8th Floor)
* Madison Suites
* Madison Club

Phase three of the MSG Transformation:
* Chase Square at Madison Square Garden
* The Chase Bridges at Madison Square Garden
* Budweiser Fan Deck
* Garden Suites

I also hope this transformation increases the capacity of the arena.

[jay stew]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

I also hope this transformation increases the capacity of the arena.

When MSG was renovated the first time, I believe the capacity decreased.

[PepMan]

Originally Posted by jay stew

When MSG was renovated the first time, I believe the capacity decreased.

I don't think so. I believe that when the luxury seats were added twenty years ago, the capacity increased, since there were no seats on the upper side of the garden. Proof?
1969ish


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