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Old October 17th, 2010, 09:43 PM   #2521
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Old October 19th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #2522
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Old October 20th, 2010, 12:10 AM   #2523
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Wow these collums are massive
But great lobby. I'm sure it will become really beautiful, like the rest of the tower!
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Old October 20th, 2010, 01:13 AM   #2524
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I think Guangzhou has Central Park beat...
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Old October 21st, 2010, 05:22 AM   #2525
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yes i think the same hahaha i like this building very nice for inside. and what is the opening?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 03:28 PM   #2526
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And year over year, the 'villages' develop. They get richer. Restaurants and shops renovate, businesses expand, and the beggars are replaced by peddlers. It is this kind of economic development that's sustainable.
I don't agree with this, come on... the revenue of the restaurants where you eat at 6-10 kuai like the ones inside that pic is pretty low and they don't renovate much... neither the residential buildings as you can see

Plus it is expected that 300M+ ppl move to the cities in the following years so it is clear for me that in the middle of a newly CBD high-rise is surely sustainable and decent hotels, restaurants, KTV etc generate millions. The other crappy stuff doesn't!

What I don't see sustainable is all these expensive shops that they always put around or in the skyscrapers and always seem to be empty
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Old October 25th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #2527
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Expensive shops don't need many clients to be profitable.
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Old October 25th, 2010, 01:18 AM   #2528
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yes though i prefer China to put more of its brands or hong Kong brands rather than the usual foreign brands which represent 'wealth and class' when ever people sport them. What I would like to see happen is the government allocating areas around the CBD for small food shops and shopping streets like Beijing Road in Gz, its much more lively though crowded. When I travel to Asia, in particular Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong, i prefer going to those small 'oldish' restaurants on the side of the street and shopping in those small shops rather than the big classy restaurants which serve the same quality of food but charge a lot more
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Old October 26th, 2010, 02:20 AM   #2529
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yes though i prefer China to put more of its brands or hong Kong brands rather than the usual foreign brands which represent 'wealth and class' when ever people sport them. What I would like to see happen is the government allocating areas around the CBD for small food shops and shopping streets like Beijing Road in Gz, its much more lively though crowded. When I travel to Asia, in particular Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong, i prefer going to those small 'oldish' restaurants on the side of the street and shopping in those small shops rather than the big classy restaurants which serve the same quality of food but charge a lot more
Yes, I agree. They should have more local brands and local dishes around the area. It is more authentic. I am sure tourists are more appreciate it.
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Old October 26th, 2010, 03:08 AM   #2530
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Old October 28th, 2010, 02:47 AM   #2531
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how shit its huge
but very nicely done
quite slim construction
and i love how you can see the construction inside of the tower!


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Old October 28th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #2532
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cool building it looks nice at night
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Old October 31st, 2010, 02:26 PM   #2533
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Sooooooo Cooooool drooooool..... This is the best site ever! Anybody who wants the perfect music to listen to while surfing ssc pm me! Dammit GZ is the future right now, forget Dubai! Hahaha

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Old November 2nd, 2010, 04:22 AM   #2534
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China's Guangzhou tower nears completion

By Mark Leftly

Sunday, 31 October 2010

The 437m tower is the tallest structure ever built to a design by a British architect.

Construction of the Guangzhou International Finance Centre in south-east China is nearly complete, and the tower is expected to take its first tenants in spring 2011. Wilkinson Eyre, a two-time winner of the Stirling Prize, designed the 103-storey tower to accommodate hotel and office space.

The Four Seasons luxury hotel group will take floors at the top, providing remarkable views of China's third-biggest city. The tower will also make a striking addition to the landscape for visitors coming to Guangzhou next month for the 16th Asian Games.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...n-2121105.html
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 01:11 AM   #2535
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There will be any observation deck at the tower?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 07:37 AM   #2536
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Looked at a drawing of the Guangzhou West Tower on the SkyscraperPage Diagrams and it looks like there are two 100-metre high buildings attached to the West Tower.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 07:45 AM   #2537
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I don't agree with this, come on... the revenue of the restaurants where you eat at 6-10 kuai like the ones inside that pic is pretty low and they don't renovate much... neither the residential buildings as you can see

Plus it is expected that 300M+ ppl move to the cities in the following years so it is clear for me that in the middle of a newly CBD high-rise is surely sustainable and decent hotels, restaurants, KTV etc generate millions. The other crappy stuff doesn't!

What I don't see sustainable is all these expensive shops that they always put around or in the skyscrapers and always seem to be empty
I suppose I should say that I'm not completely skeptical. I'm not like Milton Friedman, for example, who famously put down Shanghai's Pudong district as being nothing but a "Potemkin village built for a dead Pharaoh" (the Pharaoh, of course, being Deng Xiaoping). I think in a country with 1.4 billion people, which will inevitably displace the United States are the world's largest economy, there's a need for skyscrapers. There's a need to build up - I'm not blind to that.

That said, looking at these real estate projects here on SkyscraperCity, I can't help but feel like a girl that just got a $30,000 diamond engagement ring. I'm amazed, and it's beautiful, but I just can't help but wonder... where did the money come from?

The answer, of course, is that the overwhelming majority of these buildings are financed by overly cheap loans doled out through the Chinese banking system. The fact that the loans are so cheap allows for real estate development to remain profitable, but also has a profound macroeconomic effect. Remember of course, that the only way that the banks can afford to give out cheap loans is by keeping the deposit rate from their customers extremely low. Thus, from a top-down perspective, the system as a whole represents a massive, yet obfuscated, transfer of wealth from Chinese households to China's real estate developers.

Now, one could argue that such a massive investment in real estate represents an investment in infrastructure for the future. I don't necessarily have too much of a contention with that argument - it doesn't necessarily irk me to see a new building being erected. What does bother me, however, is China's "redevelopment" projects. Here in Shenzhen, there was a massive swath of land called "Gangxia", which was one of the more prosperous villages in the city. The government bulldozed something like 80% of the village for the purpose of "redevelopment", yet of course the land hasn't even been developed on yet.

The way I look at it - if someone wants to build a high rise, they should bulldoze what's in the way and let the rest be. The redevelopment projects aren't really development projects, they're destruction projects. The government doesn't like the noisy, dirty city streets and prefers grandiose buildings that're attractive from the passenger side of their car. It's a very Robert Moses way of looking at a city.

As you say, China still has a large chunk of population living in its rural areas that will one day move into its cities. My question - will a poor farmer be able to afford living in one of the downtown highrises? Or go to a glitzy KTV? Or... how about dine at one of those expensive restaurants? Of course not! They'll peddle their wares, or get a job, or open a restaurant in one of those 'crappy' villages. And they'll eat those 6RMB noodles (which are, by the way, often of a higher quality than it that expensive restaurant)...

Alternatively, China could do what many cities in the United States has done, and gentrify. They can build low rent housing far outside the city, which wile being of higher quality, greatly limits the economic opportunity of its residents.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 07:47 AM   #2538
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 04:47 PM   #2539
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Looked at a drawing of the Guangzhou West Tower on the SkyscraperPage Diagrams and it looks like there are two 100-metre high buildings attached to the West Tower.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2518

look at the picture in that post (dont find the original post right now)
but you can see the building complex there
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 09:00 PM   #2540
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Alternatively, China could do what many cities in the United States has done, and gentrify. They can build low rent housing far outside the city, which wile being of higher quality, greatly limits the economic opportunity of its residents.
I think is better building new cities, suburbs policy fail in China because most chinese prefer live in city center.
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