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Old January 16th, 2006, 03:34 AM   #281
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The position of the first set back will perhaps give the first real clue as to the final height as they would (one assumes) be roughly in proportion to the final height. This means that if the first set back is higher than the inital drawing would show then a guesstimate from this could be made as to the eventual outcome?
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Old January 16th, 2006, 08:50 AM   #282
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That would sound right but they could still always build differently once the core changes over to steel. Although one would hope that the renderings are very close to an interpretation of the final product, needless to say there's bit that can change, so even if we guess, I believe there's still a lot of room for surprises .
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Old January 16th, 2006, 08:51 AM   #283
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Burj Dubai Video

Hello everyone. I just came across a pretty nice video of the Burj Dubai on the Eye of Dubai website.

http://www.eyeofdubai.ae/english/vid...videonews2.asp

There are quite a few other interesting videos on the site as well. Enjoy.

Last edited by Marky30; January 16th, 2006 at 08:57 AM. Reason: Link didn't work. Sorry
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Old January 16th, 2006, 09:58 AM   #284
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Is this a NEW BURJ DUBAI RENDERING? This was found from Emaar document dated 15-Dec-2005.

Could this be 1000m version?

Renders are from different sides of building! Remember that there are 3 wings.

I think that RIGHT side/wing from "old render" is same wing as LEFT side wing from "new render"
(that what you can barely see, not the wing which is almost at the center)


and smaller version, better to compare if you use smaller screen resolution

The programme i was watching they showed the same renders of BD. The spire is actully twice or thrice the size of the old renderings.
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Old January 16th, 2006, 09:59 AM   #285
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Hello everyone. I just came across a pretty nice video of the Burj Dubai on the Eye of Dubai website.

http://www.eyeofdubai.ae/english/vid...videonews2.asp

There are quite a few other interesting videos on the site as well. Enjoy.
Thnx very nice link
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Old January 16th, 2006, 10:07 AM   #286
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Dazz, there's a flow on your comparo and the new design is actually higher then what are you sugesting.

Please adjust the ground floor to the same level.
Reduce the size of the old render (left).
Compare the setbacks starting from the bottom and not the top.

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Old January 16th, 2006, 12:56 PM   #287
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Indeed (what AltinD says)
Dazz can you show the original renders as well? thx!
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Old January 16th, 2006, 01:42 PM   #288
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as far as i know building usage is like this

antenna
emaar offices
apartments
offices
apartments
armani apartments
aramani hotel
ground floor
basement
I have to apply to work for EMAAR then
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Old January 16th, 2006, 05:24 PM   #289
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!!! Great news these days!
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Old January 16th, 2006, 07:00 PM   #290
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Are these the emerging global giants to come?

World Business
January 15, 2006

The Fortune Global 500 for 2005 was dominated by companies from established economies. Ten out of the top 20 came from the US, seven were from Europe and three were Japanese.

But this looks set to change rapidly, as companies from China, India, the Middle East, South Korea, Russia, Mexico and Brazil take leading positions in property, generic pharmaceuticals, cement, telecoms and computer construction.

Kingsmill Bond, emerging markets strategist at Deutsche Bank, told The Business: “The world is now waking up to the degree to which talent is not confined by geography. There are significant and substantial cost advantages that these companies enjoy that the West will find very hard to replicate.”

He rattles off Chinese handset manufacturer ZTE, mobile telecoms firm China Mobile, Saudi chemicals giant Saudi Arabia Basic Industries Corporation (Sabic), Dubai-based property giant Emaar, Israeli pharmaceuticals firm Teva, Brazilian mining giant Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (CVRD), Mexico’s Cemex, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) and Hon Hai Precision Industries, which makes electricals, as ones to watch in 2006.

Of these Emaar takes the crown, after a 646% rise in its shares last year made it the world’s largest real estate company, with a $46bn market value. It has prospered by developing projects on the scale of the Burj Dubai tower, the world’s tallest building, and plans a $16bn resort on Saudi Arabia’s Red Sea coast.

One thing’s for certain: globalisation no longer means just exporting McDonald’s.

http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Sto...F-EE19F9206FB3
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Old January 16th, 2006, 07:06 PM   #291
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posted this in the UAE section already:

the right part seems like the old, squeezed render, adrian smith was talking about. it is the same as the coloured one with the fountain i'd say.

this new render is the actual one he designed after they gave him no limit permission and he designed the new one, with better proportions at the top.

not sure though.

indeed, especially the top part, which is in fact the one they want to extend if necessary, looks taller. roof and spire also.
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Old January 16th, 2006, 09:08 PM   #292
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great
yet another height

emaar is perfect in distributing different heights every day

don't believe in anything

there is no way we find it out!!!!!
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Old January 16th, 2006, 10:00 PM   #293
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Dazz, there's a flow on your comparo and the new design is actually higher then what are you sugesting.

Please adjust the ground floor to the same level.
Reduce the size of the old render (left).
Compare the setbacks starting from the bottom and not the top.

well it wouldn't work like that because they use different perspective...but yes, the render on the right side is maybe 5pixels too up.

But that was not the point, what you can see is that the tower's concrete core part is exactly the same, setbacks are exactly in the same positions, the differences start from the last black line which I have drawn, where the steel framing starts!

and the concrete part should be 575m, so let the calculating begin...
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Old January 16th, 2006, 10:05 PM   #294
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ok, here's results after my calculations:
right one: 775meters
left one: 890meters

hmmh, well now I have high hopes for 900m Burj Dubai
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Old January 16th, 2006, 10:40 PM   #295
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900m...

i want to go for the magical figure
but indeed, you are right, it is just the steel part to be extended, and appearantly they did that once already.
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Old January 16th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #296
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Dubai is one of favourite city.I've been in dubai.It was a very good journey for me.Me and all Istanbul love them.they know why [Dubai towers Istanbul] and about that building I can say nothing.Prepare ur suitcase and go dubai!!( I HOPE DUBAI GONNA BUILD THE SAME BUILDING IN ISTANBUL )
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Old January 17th, 2006, 12:39 AM   #297
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Wow! this tower is very impressive. I mean of course i wanted to have the tallest building in new york to have an powerful statement. But this is exiting to see this building rise.
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Old January 17th, 2006, 12:53 AM   #298
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OMG, i cant believe my eyes
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Old January 17th, 2006, 01:37 AM   #299
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Does anyone else think that shorter original rendering was purpousely "chopped off" near the top and looks stubby to disguise it's final floor count and height?
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Old January 17th, 2006, 01:55 AM   #300
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call me a heretic, but i actually like the shorter rendering better.
As the elements thin, they shorten, thereby keeping the
proportion more "Natural". The taller version given an unnatural
impression of instability near the top.....as though the structure was
"accellerating" towards the sky. I am not a structural engineer, though....
just my impressions.

I think that the concrete core and likely the habitable floor count will be roughly the same in either case...isn't it just the ornament at the top
which is getting stretched? After all, what could fit in such tiny floors
after the elevator core is included. Or maybe this is what get's it from
158 floors to 189.......

intriguing, nonetheless.....and taller is more fun!
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