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Old January 17th, 2006, 02:17 AM   #301
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I think those rediculously small floors are actually part of the spire.
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Old January 17th, 2006, 05:46 AM   #302
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900m wow! I hope that the BD is really made this high and does not have a ridiculously tall spire on top that pushes it to the record.
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Old January 17th, 2006, 10:28 AM   #303
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"call me a heretic, but i actually like the shorter rendering better.
As the elements thin, they shorten, thereby keeping the
proportion more "Natural". The taller version given an unnatural
impression of instability near the top.....as though the structure was
"accellerating" towards the sky. I am not a structural engineer, though....
just my impressions."

Maybe you have to redefine your view at how strong materials are. Today there is glass stronger than rocks.

And the idea of BD is to have an organic (appereance) rise. With that said, the higher version looks way better. For dubai it is good.

For New York or Chicago, just to take two obvious examples. I dont this kind of building would fit in. Burj Dubai is built in not only a whole new complex but a completely new downtown, so they have disgned it for it to fit in.

Thet taller one is definitely better estheticly and i also like the brighter facade much better . BD and Dubai in general manages to make me even more enthusiastic than PS3 and its 1080p support.
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Old January 17th, 2006, 10:30 AM   #304
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I don't know why Dubai has to build such a high building like that even it has a plenty of land plot.
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Old January 17th, 2006, 10:37 AM   #305
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Australia is building tall and look at the amount land we have. It's not vaible to build sprawl anymore in the modern world. Also It's a WTB i dont think any building over 300m is really needed do you.
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Old January 17th, 2006, 10:46 AM   #306
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Mosaic:

It gives tourism and further developement. Building it is an investment for the whole city. Just like Burj Al Arab.

BTW its better for the environment to build high then spread the population on huge areas.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 12:08 AM   #307
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New render comments

One thing I noticed right away is that, I think this is the only render distributed, showing us all 3 wings. On one wing, there is a setback at every maintenance level.

I believe the maintenance level has now been shown to us in the center core construction pics.

Our first setback is close boys and GIRLS!

Thanks again DL
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Old January 18th, 2006, 12:13 AM   #308
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I don't know why Dubai has to build such a high building like that even it has a plenty of land plot.

to give you an example, dubai marina, about 200 plots, e.g 200 highrises, and all of them are sold within days ,weeks , months, no matter who buys there, but they are sold, and since there is not much space in the marina, they need to go upwards to sell more units. therefore several supetalls.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 12:26 AM   #309
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I don't know why Dubai has to build such a high building like that even it has a plenty of land plot.
High-rises are more efficient, and more desirable for the majority of foreigners. What type of development are you envisioning?
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Old January 18th, 2006, 12:28 AM   #310
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I presume they could build loads of low density housing instead. Maybe the highrises are a good thing though to add more variety to residential properties being sold. Obviously if I have kids I'd like a villa but would prefer an apartment in a high-rise otherwise
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Old January 18th, 2006, 02:01 AM   #311
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Quote:
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I don't know why Dubai has to build such a high building like that even it has a plenty of land plot.
It's the kind of city they chosed.
In my opinion is better to concentrate people. Is cheaper and more efficient for public transport, facilities, etc...
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Old January 18th, 2006, 03:40 AM   #312
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Hey malec:

Do you realize that if you didn't post renders, as well as DL's pics on SSP, they would not have any updates (and new pics) since Nov. 21st? They are still on part 1 also. I noticed this when SSC was down today.

Why do you think they are so slow (but get more web press), when we are already on part 11?

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Old January 18th, 2006, 08:14 AM   #313
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Hey malec:

Do you realize that if you didn't post renders, as well as DL's pics on SSP, they would not have any updates (and new pics) since Nov. 21st? They are still on part 1 also. I noticed this when SSC was down today.

Why do you think they are so slow (but get more web press), when we are already on part 11?
Must be for their diagram gallery.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 08:33 AM   #314
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or the fact that BD is not in the states
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Old January 18th, 2006, 08:52 AM   #315
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Hey malec:

Do you realize that if you didn't post renders, as well as DL's pics on SSP, they would not have any updates (and new pics) since Nov. 21st? They are still on part 1 also. I noticed this when SSC was down today.

Why do you think they are so slow (but get more web press), when we are already on part 11?
SSP cares but doesn't care about BD. Personally I think that's fine. I mean you don't see many people over there with 1,000 posts who regestered November 05 like you do here. I won't get excited until later. Too many people here orgasm when a crane moves a few feet. It's silly really.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 09:28 AM   #316
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Hey malec:

Do you realize that if you didn't post renders, as well as DL's pics on SSP, they would not have any updates (and new pics) since Nov. 21st? They are still on part 1 also. I noticed this when SSC was down today.

Why do you think they are so slow (but get more web press), when we are already on part 11?
maybe because the number of members here is 5 times more than SSP and there is the other obvious reason that those americans dont see further than their noses
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Old January 18th, 2006, 10:52 AM   #317
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Quote:
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Hey malec:

Do you realize that if you didn't post renders, as well as DL's pics on SSP, they would not have any updates (and new pics) since Nov. 21st? They are still on part 1 also. I noticed this when SSC was down today.

Why do you think they are so slow (but get more web press), when we are already on part 11?
Well, there is a bit of interest there in this tower since it does have over 600 posts. Also you have to admit, the threads here are often filled with crap such as 2 pages of "great update" each time there are new pics.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 05:44 PM   #318
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I presume they could build loads of low density housing instead. Maybe the highrises are a good thing though to add more variety to residential properties being sold. Obviously if I have kids I'd like a villa but would prefer an apartment in a high-rise otherwise

also they are indeed more effecient than villas or low rises.

dubai is very hot and has central AC cooling systems, so it is a lot cheaper to keep a tower cool than 500 single houses.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 07:17 PM   #319
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[QUOTE=AKing]"call me a heretic, but i actually like the shorter rendering better.


AKing

Your a heretic.


For myself, there is no other logical reason for BD other than its extreme height to make a statement and put Dubai on the tourist map. I love the design and the taller the better. It's their money.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 12:12 AM   #320
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New Chairman on Tall Buildings Forecast:

David Scott of Arup to chair Council on Tall Buildings
18 January 2006

750m forecast for Burj Dubai

Noting the recent scale of new investment and re-commitment to tall buildings, which makes it a very interesting, and important time for tall building design, he said that new technologies and a greater understanding of how these buildings perform under normal and extreme conditions, are making tall buildings more robust, more efficient and more sustainable.

“The current tallest building in the world is Taipei 101 at 508m. Emaar’s Burj Dubai, by SOM, now under construction, will set the new world record when it tops out at approximately 750m. These buildings are enormous and demonstrate a very high level of confidence in the performance of tall buildings. But few new buildings are targeting the tallest spot, and the drive to be tallest has moved out of reach for most developers,” said Mr. Scott.

http://www.ciobinternational.org/ope...ArticleID=4837
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