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Old January 5th, 2006, 06:00 AM   #21
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Old January 5th, 2006, 06:04 AM   #22
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The Petronas are just awesome. Definitely not overrated. Most Americans in here thinking they're overrated just seem to have sour grapes, for the KL towers were first to take 'the worlds tallest' out of their country.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 10:27 PM   #23
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The Petronas are just awesome. Definitely not overrated. Most Americans in here thinking they're overrated just seem to have sour grapes, for the KL towers were first to take 'the worlds tallest' out of their country.
And people thinking the Empire State Building is overrated isn't sour grapes about not having a structure widely considered to be the most famous in the world? You're probably thinking "Um, no" and I feel the same about Americans being jealous because the Petronas took the Sears Tower's title with spire height. That's Chicago anyway, haha.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 01:03 AM   #24
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The Tribune Tower and the design competition has left it's marks in the history of architecture.

But for me, the most overrated tower was the former WTC. Without the height the towers wouldn't be noticed by most people and after '9/11' people were romancing the towers, making them more beautiful than they were. Yes, they were an icon, but only because of it's location and size. In the beginning the towers weren't that populair:



Showing it at night is much actually makes it look better than it does durring the day.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 01:17 AM   #25
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I'll have to say the Seagram Building in NY. My 3 year old God Son could have Designed it !!!

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Old January 6th, 2006, 01:19 AM   #26
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Here's a link to the Seagram Building:

http://www.thecityreview.com/park375.html
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Old January 6th, 2006, 01:21 AM   #27
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We know what Seagram is. And that's not overrated either, it's just that you probably don't like Mies very much, or his particular style.
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Old January 8th, 2006, 09:28 PM   #28
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No sour grapes for me; I DO NOT like the Petronas and feel they are highly overrated. In addition to those things add: ESB, WTC, One Liberty in Philly, 2 IFC, 311 South Wacker Drive.
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Old January 8th, 2006, 09:33 PM   #29
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Not to be mean, but One Liberty and 311 South Wacker are overrated? They're hardly mentioned and most people probably don't even know their names.
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Old January 8th, 2006, 10:09 PM   #30
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I don't care how overrated people may think 2-IFC is... that is one badass skyscraper. Period. The same is said for the Empire State Building and World Trade Center. For what people may think those particular towers lack in design for their worldwide acclaim, they more than make up for in sheer POWER. The same can be said for those who believe the Sears Tower is overrated. Those buildings follow true skyscraper form and are incredibly awe inspiring. Height may not mean everything, but is most certainly is the first thing that even makes a building a skyscraper in the first place.
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Old January 9th, 2006, 02:01 AM   #31
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Puerta de Europa I and II in Madrid (the inclining towers). I am all for new and unique but I just don't care to feast my eyes upon them. Maybe they are better in person but I don't like them much. Also Swiss Re in London I just do not care for. Very good intricate design and materials but the shape just makes me want to puke.
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Old January 9th, 2006, 04:26 AM   #32
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No sour grapes for me; I DO NOT like the Petronas and feel they are highly overrated. In addition to those things add: ESB, WTC, One Liberty in Philly, 2 IFC, 311 South Wacker Drive.
I think that's probably the first time I've heard someone mention 311 S. Wacker. Definitely not overrated, unknown if anything.
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Old January 9th, 2006, 04:30 AM   #33
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Old January 9th, 2006, 04:35 AM   #34
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I think that's probably the first time I've heard someone mention 311 S. Wacker. Definitely not overrated, unknown if anything.
Exactly...how can this building be overrated? Most people in the US, let alone the world, dont know about this building. Its not a legend like ESB, thus doesnt have a hype to hold up
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I'd have to say Sears Tower and WTC, because of the whole height thing.
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Old January 9th, 2006, 05:05 AM   #36
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The Petronas are just awesome. Definitely not overrated. Most Americans in here thinking they're overrated just seem to have sour grapes, for the KL towers were first to take 'the worlds tallest' out of their country.
No. It's because if you put them next to each other, the Sears Tower looks way taller but because of that tiny lil spire, it's shorter. They should build a spire on the Sears Tower or count the antennaes as a spire like what they did with the Chase Tower in Indianapolis.
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Old January 9th, 2006, 05:30 AM   #37
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Sydney opera house, I'd say. In every damn article featuring Australia or picture of Sydney, the Opera house would show! Australia=opera house & kangaroos...Give us a break!!
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No. It's because if you put them next to each other, the Sears Tower looks way taller but because of that tiny lil spire, it's shorter. They should build a spire on the Sears Tower or count the antennaes as a spire like what they did with the Chase Tower in Indianapolis.
Both are equally towering. Regarding the 'World's Tallest' debate, i'll still say the spires are an integral part of the building whether you like it or not and Petronas can always built a clear winner rather than putting the spires and spark of this debate, and don't forget they build two. Heights aside, the PTT and the Sears Tower are my favourite skyscrapers.
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Both are equally towering. Regarding the 'World's Tallest' debate, i'll still say the spires are an integral part of the building whether you like it or not and Petronas can always built a clear winner rather than putting the spires and spark of this debate, and don't forget they build two. Heights aside, the PTT and the Sears Tower are my favourite skyscrapers.
I am not saying that the spire is not part of the building but if the Chase Tower in Indy can count it's so call spire, then so could the Sears Tower.

Look at the comparison (Using my city's tallest). You can see that Chase Tower is only taller because one of its 'spire' is a communication antennae and the other is decoration. Isn't the Sears Tower exactly the same with it's antennae?


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Petronas Tower: 1483ft/452m
Sears Tower: 1451ft/442m
Chase Tower: 811ft/247m
John Hancock Tower:790ft/240m
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Old January 9th, 2006, 12:29 PM   #40
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Sydney opera house, I'd say. In every damn article featuring Australia or picture of Sydney, the Opera house would show! Australia=opera house & kangaroos...Give us a break!!
theres a reason for that. Its one of the worlds great buildings! Its a beuatiful structure inside and out.Its setting on sydney harbour is one of the greatest locations.Its now being considered to be included as one of the new 7 wonders of the world!!



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A group conducting a survey to find the new 'Seven Wonders of the World' has included the Sydney Opera House in a short-list of 21 international landmarks.

The list is a combination of more modern landmarks, like the Eiffel Tower in Paris, and older candidates, including Colosseum in Rome, the ancient city of Petra in Jordan, and China's Great Wall.

Project organiser Bernard Weber wants people to vote for the new "Seven Wonders" by internet or telephone.

"The ancient Seven Wonders were declared by a single man about 2,000 years ago, so I thought as a millennium project it would be fun to combine the latest technology with this possibility to have this time all the people of the world select what they decide to be the new Seven Wonders of the World," he said.

The Swiss-based foundation will published the results in a year.
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