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Old August 8th, 2007, 01:16 PM   #601
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wow, manila has a pretty nice skyline and architecture with some great skyscrapers. i just dont understand how a third world country like the philippines, with the ongoing continuous problems like government corruption, civil wars, and widespread poverty, can have such a top notch and affluent looking city like manila. manila looks more cosmopolitan than other cities located in more affluent asian countries like taipei in taiwan.
The financial and commercial affairs of the Philippines are concentrated in Manila. Although we may not be a well-off nation, we can't deny the fact that the Philippines has a lot of money in its pocket.

And you ask why we're cosmopolitan? That's because we assimilated European, Hispanic, Oriental and American cultures into our own. Talk about 300 years of Spanish rule and 50 years of being American!
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Old August 8th, 2007, 08:06 PM   #602
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well actually, Philippines was not considered as an american state during the colonization, were just simply... a commonwealth like puerto rico.

btw... are we still 3rd world?
I think were already newly-industrialised country...
like South africa... China... India... whatever
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Old August 9th, 2007, 05:07 AM   #603
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:38 AM   #604
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mid-income country that is..
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:43 AM   #605
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:43 AM   #606
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wow, manila has a pretty nice skyline and architecture with some great skyscrapers. i just dont understand how a third world country like the philippines, with the ongoing continuous problems like government corruption, civil wars, and widespread poverty, can have such a top notch and affluent looking city like manila. manila looks more cosmopolitan than other cities located in more affluent asian countries like taipei in taiwan.
Just like Thailand and Indonesia. The skyline of their capitals look richer than Taipei.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:45 AM   #607
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Thats easy, 1st even if the Philippines is third world, most of the wealth is concentrated in Manila. 2nd, its the 10 million overseas workers (which is far richer per-capita than the general per-capita of the non-migrant populace) that is fueling the hi-rise residential real-estate sector, some of which purely invest on condos to take advantage of the high appreciation of all real estate. Third to be able to get land close to important areas like makati, manila, ortigas, etc., and with the scarcity of adjacent undeveloped land and high land values, to most viable option is to go up.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:59 AM   #608
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Old August 9th, 2007, 09:08 AM   #609
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wow, manila has a pretty nice skyline and architecture with some great skyscrapers. i just dont understand how a third world country like the philippines, with the ongoing continuous problems like government corruption, civil wars, and widespread poverty, can have such a top notch and affluent looking city like manila. manila looks more cosmopolitan than other cities located in more affluent asian countries like taipei in taiwan.
to put it simply: the rich keep getting richer, and the poor poorer. just because dubai, or taipei before that, or KL had the world's tallest buildings doesn't mean they were fully developed cities with one of the world's greatest economies. Same applies for the Philippines
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Old August 9th, 2007, 02:35 PM   #610
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well my comment wasn't primarily about socioeconomics and which country/city is more developed, etc. i was mainly referring to "appearances" because manila looks like a city that would be located in a more affluent, developed country although it's not. it has characteristics of a developed city like singapore such as good urban planning, beautiful architecture and plenty of high-rises, (at least in the photos i've seen of it) even tho the nation as a whole is not as developed (2nd world then, i don't know). you just wouldn't expect a country like that to have a city that looks like singapore, you know? and just because a country may be affluent, that doesn't guarantee it's cities would have great architecture with nicely designed buildings. (look at taiwan for example. people spend so much money constructing buildings there but alot of them are just ugly or uninspiring and lack design innovation. taipei 101 is like a US $1.5 billion building but it really doesn't win any architectural awards!! sadly, local architects there for the most part just don't know how to design.)

so who designs manila's buildings - foreigners or local architects? and if designed by local architects, do many get trained overseas? because most of manila's buildings look completely western. some asian architects try to incorporate traditional asian architectural elements into western skyscrapers like in taiwan, malaysia and china. i dont even know what traditional filipino architecture looks like.

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Old August 9th, 2007, 04:10 PM   #611
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Haha, sorry for the buzz. It's not your fault.

Well, a lot of the buildings are locally designed. I don't know if the local architects are trained somewhere but I'm pretty sure they the bulk of their knowledge comes from local arts and stuff. There are some buildings which are designed by international firms, like IM Pei, Skidmore, Owings and Merrill, HOK and Arquitectonica. Most of the time though, they tie-up with a local partner.
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Old August 11th, 2007, 05:47 AM   #613
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Pioneer Woodlands - Pioneer St, Mandaluyong city

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Old August 11th, 2007, 05:54 AM   #614
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Old August 12th, 2007, 02:50 PM   #615
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Old August 12th, 2007, 05:14 PM   #616
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@Araneta, welcome back! now i should expect this thread to be always updated.. TY
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Old August 12th, 2007, 06:19 PM   #617
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mid-income country that is..
indeed it is, but tell that to foreigners. They still think the Philippines is where it was 30 years ago, with 50% of our population starving etc etc.. Of course there are still those who are suffering even now, but with the economy recovering well and the abject poverty figures at 25% of the population, its nowhere near what these guys were expecting!! In fact, after showing someone some pics of MM skyline on SSC, he confessed to me that he never expected Manila to have skyscrapers and infrastructure, he actually expected it to look like an African city edit: (no offense to Africa.)
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Old August 12th, 2007, 10:21 PM   #618
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Does anyone have any latest pics of antel projects in Makati like a1 venue, residences and a1mall?
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Old August 14th, 2007, 03:54 AM   #619
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Lumpia: 30 years ago, our nation had a better reputation. The full economical and political effects of the Marcos Dictatorship had yet to take effect on our nation back in 1977. That's why I wouldn't exactly look at 30 years ago as a negative.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 06:28 AM   #620
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In fact, after showing someone some pics of MM skyline on SSC, he confessed to me that he never expected Manila to have skyscrapers and infrastructure, he actually expected it to look like an African city edit: (no offense to Africa.)
even my step-dad who has been out of the country for more than a decade thought that the pics of manila i showed him in SSC were photoshopped
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