Iran's Soccer Stadiums. - Page 3

sinasina · November 23rd, 2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Persan

...Umm... What about Japan?

I'd say it was the best country in the Middle East.

noo noo

we are talking about the 1970s, so japan was pretty weak in that era compared to ... it wasn't until the end of iran-iraq war, that countries like japan all grew exponentially in economic

sinasina · November 23rd, 2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Persan

Some of these stadiums are architecturally quite nice, but are they all necessary? I mean, do places like Arak and Kashan need stadiums when the state of medical infrastructure in both towns is in need of improvement?

Don't get me wrong, I think that stadiums are nice to have, but only after basic infrastructure is established in a town. It's kind of like after the Iran-Iraq War when the first thing they rebuilt in Abadan were a dozen mosques rather than let's say, hospitals and schools.

agreed bigtime
+ its just the sad fact of one city having all the hospitals and doctors and all other cities don't have these ..... everytime i go to a doctor or hospital in Tehran i see the poor ppl from other cities there, they have to ome 100s of km to see a gd doctor

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Originally Posted by persian

NEW Sport Center Plus Artificial Soccer Ground opend in Mirdamad/Tehran

oooh! do u know where exactly this is? + can any1 go to it??

Aryamehr · November 23rd, 2008, 01:20 PM

To me it seems like they are just building these stadiums everywhere they can to combat the hate people have.

They don't really care how it is done, where etc or if anything else needs improvement.

It's a pity, as Persan said that things like medical instructure need improvements yet they build stadiums.

Omid_Sultani · November 23rd, 2008, 06:42 PM

All these new stadiums should have been built 30 years ago.

persian · November 23rd, 2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sinasina

agreed bigtime
+ its just the sad fact of one city having all the hospitals and doctors and all other cities don't have these ..... everytime i go to a doctor or hospital in Tehran i see the poor ppl from other cities there, they have to ome 100s of km to see a gd doctor

oooh! do u know where exactly this is? + can any1 go to it??

Somewhere in Mirdamad. Not sure exactly where.

persian · November 23rd, 2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aryamehr

To me it seems like they are just building these stadiums everywhere they can to combat the hate people have.

They don't really care how it is done, where etc or if anything else needs improvement.

It's a pity, as Persan said that things like medical instructure need improvements yet they build stadiums.

The new head of Tarbiat badani, Aliabadi loves building projects specially stadiums and opening them himself. As you said they don't really care about their quality.

***Persan*** · November 24th, 2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sinasina

noo noo

we are talking about the 1970s, so japan was pretty weak in that era compared to ... it wasn't until the end of iran-iraq war, that countries like japan all grew exponentially in economic

I think you maybe thinking of Thailand and South Korea. Actually, Japan was pretty much "the China" of the 1970s - i.e. double-digit economic growth rates. It continued to grow well into the 1980s but by 1990, the bubble burst. The Iran-Iraq War ended in 1988 and Japan was at the end of its economic growth.

Iran's economic growth slowed in the late 1970s. That was one of the reasons for the revolution. As a side note, Iran's economy was much bigger and stronger than South Korea and Thailand combined. Now it's not!

Omid_Sultani · November 24th, 2008, 05:31 PM

Well Thailand is not what I'd call a rich nation, while South Korea's Samsung must have been strong for many years, right?

***Persan*** · November 24th, 2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Omid_Sultani

Well Thailand is not what I'd call a rich nation, while South Korea's Samsung must have been strong for many years, right?

Considering one factor (such as Samsung) is not really a reason to call a country "rich" or not. A good indicator is the country's GDP: The measure of national income and output for a given country's economy. South Korea's GDP is 13th in the world. Iran's is 29th. Thailand is 34th.

Omid_Sultani · November 25th, 2008, 04:53 PM

I know I mean South Korea's situation in the 70's, it wasn't that bad right? I mean Iran had oil-wealth, but in Korea the standard of living wasn't low either?

***Persan*** · November 25th, 2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Omid_Sultani

I know I mean South Korea's situation in the 70's, it wasn't that bad right? I mean Iran had oil-wealth, but in Korea the standard of living wasn't low either?

Actually, South Korea in the 1970s was worse off than Iran. It wasn't terrible, but not at the standard it is now (a First World country).

Omid_Sultani · November 25th, 2008, 11:31 PM

OK, though they did export Samsung worldwide then too?

***Persan*** · November 26th, 2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Omid_Sultani

OK, though they did export Samsung worldwide then too?

No. But Samsung is not the only reason for South Korea's success.

Omid_Sultani · November 26th, 2008, 02:35 PM

I know, of course not.

Though according to this that company was succesful then too
http://www.samsung.com/se/aboutsamsu...p19701979.html

However that has nothing to do with standard of living, it is just the technical-industry.

Aryamehr · November 26th, 2008, 04:44 PM

(nominal, not PPP)

1978
Japan GDP/per capita: ~6000$
Iran GDP/per capita: ~2500$

(2.4*2500 = 6000)

2007
Japan GDP/per capita: ~35,000$
Iran GDP/per capita: ~4000$

(8.75*4000= 35000)

(Please note that, 2500$ under the Shah is over 7500 today dollars, basically during all this time this crap regime couldn't even higher our GDP, even though Japan managed. There is doubt that we would probably pass Japan in terms of economy etc if the Shah was still in power. Also worth knowing that Japan did not have the problems we had to deal with.)

Omid_Sultani · November 26th, 2008, 11:28 PM

Iran would probably have less economical problems than Japan, but I don't think it would have a technical development close to Japan's. Their problem is lack of natural resources, so they have invested alot in the industry. After WWII, the economy slowly growed until the 60's when it truly developed greatly and in the 70's, Japan was the home of hightech good stuff. Iran would today be a strong economy, though I think it would have more debts than those days, but still an economical power.

shugs · November 27th, 2008, 01:46 AM

Japan also set international standards of production quality and developed management techniques that have now been implemented globally, during their economic growth. It is a very industrious nation.

galaxtico · May 12th, 2009, 09:37 PM

Who has pictures of stadiums in Iran?

http://www.stadiumzone.net

has a special about Azadi Stadium and the home of AbooMoslem FC. What's the oldest stadium in the country?

Persiancat · May 13th, 2009, 12:52 AM

We have already a very similar thread for that:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=303110

galaxtico · July 13th, 2009, 02:23 PM

Are there still plans for a new national stadium? Azadi Stadium is beautiful, but old...

November 26th, 2008, 04:44 PM	#55
Aryamehr BANNED Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 31 Likes (Received): 0	(nominal, not PPP) 1978 Japan GDP/per capita: ~6000$ Iran GDP/per capita: ~2500$ (2.42500 = 6000) 2007* Japan GDP/per capita: ~35,000$ Iran GDP/per capita: ~4000$ (8.754000= 35000) (Please note that, 2500$ under the Shah is over 7500 today dollars, basically during all this time this crap regime couldn't even higher our GDP, even though Japan managed. There is doubt that we would probably pass Japan in terms of economy etc if the Shah was still in power. Also worth knowing that Japan did not have the problems we had to deal with.) Last edited by Aryamehr; November 26th, 2008 at 04:54 PM.*

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November 23rd, 2008, 01:20 PM	#43
Aryamehr BANNED Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 31 Likes (Received): 0	To me it seems like they are just building these stadiums everywhere they can to combat the hate people have. They don't really care how it is done, where etc or if anything else needs improvement. It's a pity, as Persan said that things like medical instructure need improvements yet they build stadiums.

November 23rd, 2008, 06:42 PM	#44
Omid_Sultani For you're worth it Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 518 Likes (Received): 0	All these new stadiums should have been built 30 years ago.

November 24th, 2008, 05:31 PM	#48
Omid_Sultani For you're worth it Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 518 Likes (Received): 0	Well Thailand is not what I'd call a rich nation, while South Korea's Samsung must have been strong for many years, right?

November 25th, 2008, 04:53 PM	#50
Omid_Sultani For you're worth it Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 518 Likes (Received): 0	I know I mean South Korea's situation in the 70's, it wasn't that bad right? I mean Iran had oil-wealth, but in Korea the standard of living wasn't low either?

November 25th, 2008, 11:31 PM	#52
Omid_Sultani For you're worth it Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 518 Likes (Received): 0	OK, though they did export Samsung worldwide then too?

November 26th, 2008, 02:35 PM	#54
Omid_Sultani For you're worth it Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 518 Likes (Received): 0	I know, of course not. Though according to this that company was succesful then too http://www.samsung.com/se/aboutsamsu...p19701979.html However that has nothing to do with standard of living, it is just the technical-industry.

November 26th, 2008, 11:28 PM	#56
Omid_Sultani For you're worth it Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 518 Likes (Received): 0	Iran would probably have less economical problems than Japan, but I don't think it would have a technical development close to Japan's. Their problem is lack of natural resources, so they have invested alot in the industry. After WWII, the economy slowly growed until the 60's when it truly developed greatly and in the 70's, Japan was the home of hightech good stuff. Iran would today be a strong economy, though I think it would have more debts than those days, but still an economical power.

May 13th, 2009, 12:52 AM	#59
Persiancat BANNED Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,222 Likes (Received): 0	We have already a very similar thread for that: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=303110

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