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Old May 15th, 2007, 04:28 AM   #241
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I sincerely hope that the proper work and engineering along with materials are used so that the incident on the I-90 east stretch of tunnel NEVER happens again.

The Big Dig will only be repeated once we the world see that it can stand up for the long haul and that goes by making sure that the most quality materials and competent contractors are used.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 01:12 PM   #242
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No VMS or signalisation in the Big Dig? That's a pity. You guys need it in such a busy tunnel. We had this kind of stuff even in the seventies!
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Old May 15th, 2007, 03:45 PM   #243
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The Big Dig is also the longest tunnel in the US (4.2 km/2.6 mi), if I'm not mistaken, which is extremely surprising for such a vast country.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #244
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My fav in Germany is the A3 between Cologne and Frankfurt!

I like it that the South Africans use the DIN1451-Font on their signs
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Old May 15th, 2007, 09:09 PM   #245
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I sincerely hope that the proper work and engineering along with materials are used so that the incident on the I-90 east stretch of tunnel NEVER happens again.

The Big Dig will only be repeated once we the world see that it can stand up for the long haul and that goes by making sure that the most quality materials and competent contractors are used.
Big Dig is just an experiment for a very congested city. I hope it will be successful because there are a lot of cities that has the same problem like Boston. New York is one of cities studying and monitoring this complex system. If it will be successful, then they will build one for the Big Apple.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 09:27 PM   #246
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My fav in Germany is the A3 between Cologne and Frankfurt!

I like it that the South Africans use the DIN1451-Font on their signs
German motorways and roads have very old asphalt, it is not damaged but very old
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Old May 16th, 2007, 04:49 AM   #247
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Big Dig is just an experiment for a very congested city. I hope it will be successful because there are a lot of cities that has the same problem like Boston. New York is one of cities studying and monitoring this complex system. If it will be successful, then they will build one for the Big Apple.
Well, let's just hope that if and when NYC tries a project like this they will have found ways to minimize the cost-overuns, the miscues of construction, and the overall mismanagement that the Big Dig was. Big Dig = Big disaster.

I guess in the end, Boston has their new underground freeway. But at what cost?

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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:15 AM   #248
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Great thread!

I am wondering if parkways can be counted on this thread too? I have some pictures of one of nicest parkways even I seen in many cities that I want to share.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 06:45 AM   #249
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Well, let's just hope that if and when NYC tries a project like this they will have found ways to minimize the cost-overuns, the miscues of construction, and the overall mismanagement that the Big Dig was. Big Dig = Big disaster.

I guess in the end, Boston has their new underground freeway. But at what cost?

14.6 US billion dollars and counting. There are rumors that some money were misused or went to someone's pocket. That could be the reason why the greatest project in US History was mishandled.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 01:23 PM   #250
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14.6 US billion dollars and counting. There are rumors that some money were misused or went to someone's pocket. That could be the reason why the greatest project in US History was mishandled.
That's $14.6 billion of national money, not local money. The whole thing was funded by Congress.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 03:26 PM   #251
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That's $14.6 billion of national money, not local money. The whole thing was funded by Congress.
Which then means we all chipped in more then a penny or 2. More like a dime or 15 cents per person(the majority of that collected from our pain at the pump(gas taxes) and income taxes).
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Old May 16th, 2007, 09:51 PM   #252
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Which then means we all chipped in more then a penny or 2. More like a dime or 15 cents per person(the majority of that collected from our pain at the pump(gas taxes) and income taxes).
It ends up being somewhere closer to $100 a person if you factor in both the taxable population (i.e. those who are employed) and those who own a car.

90% of which are never going to use the thing.
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90% of which are never going to use the thing.
That is usual by federal funding. 90% also never uses the I-45 in Texas.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 12:14 AM   #254
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I've heard that most of the cost overruns on the big dig were/are caused by corruption. I.e. the mafia.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 01:56 AM   #255
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Great thread!

I am wondering if parkways can be counted on this thread too? I have some pictures of one of nicest parkways even I seen in many cities that I want to share.
Alright I guess parkways are not counted on this thread.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 02:21 AM   #256
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^ I think they are (as long as they are at least 4-laned), so please show us that parkway with some nice scenery.
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That is usual by federal funding. 90% also never uses the I-45 in Texas.
Ahh, but how much freight, particularly oil, is shipped by that route? This has a cumulative benefit for the entire nation. I'm not sure you could say the same about the Big Dig.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 03:09 AM   #258
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Busiest Interchange in New Zealand.

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Old May 17th, 2007, 03:24 AM   #259
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OK, this one was unnecessary. Radi6404, what's scary?
I don´t know if it is unneccessary, some roads in bulgaria, sebia and other countries there are just not motorways but roads like this but are newer and have better asphalt than for example German autobahns, a good example for this is the E-79 in bulgaria from blagoevgrad to dupnica and a bit more (15 km after dupnica the real thing starts)
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Old May 17th, 2007, 04:00 AM   #260
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^ Yeah, I know, but I still think we should focus on at least 4-lane freeways/motorways/blah blah blah...
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