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Old January 20th, 2014, 12:19 PM   #461
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Aghia Marina station is very impressive and beautiful. I went to see it on Saturday.
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Old January 22nd, 2014, 01:04 AM   #462
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Now, I know that Athens metro has got 65 stations, but... How many kilometres?
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Old January 22nd, 2014, 06:24 PM   #463
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The 3 lines have a total length of 64 kms + 20.7 kms for the section Doukissis Plakentias-airport that does not belong to the metro network, but to suburban railway! Some people like to add the 2 numbers, but I don't!

If you want to see something really crazy, take a look at this map:
http://www.ametro.gr/files/images/AM...Jan2012_en.JPG
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Old April 4th, 2014, 07:07 PM   #464
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At last, the new train-sets take on passengers:

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Old May 19th, 2014, 08:51 AM   #465
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Could anybody post here some details about former tram system of Athens, which was closed in 1960? - with some photos & a map of complete network of that system?

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Old May 20th, 2014, 08:43 PM   #466
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Have you any new of new extension tram between Neo Faliro and Pireus??
The contract was signed and the extension will be complete in 2015
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Old May 20th, 2014, 09:15 PM   #467
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You can read about the latest developments here:

http://www.ametro.gr/page/default.asp?la=2&id=5339
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Old May 31st, 2014, 05:43 AM   #468
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I generally saw South Korean and Japaneese metro networks share metro service with suburban train service, but it is great that Athens using metro & suburban train in a common route, that is line 3, hats off to Athens.

Athens’ metro is one of the oldest in world, and very few which has started operation as steam metro. But why line 2 & 3 opened after so long gap? What was the problem?
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Old June 4th, 2014, 01:11 PM   #469
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At last after Athens returned its tram system after a long 44 years gap. Better late than never. The new system is really modern..

A question, are the new name of Athens is ATHINA? Please confirm...
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Old June 4th, 2014, 01:56 PM   #470
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Ancient name is Athinai, (plural) modern Athina (singular), Athens is in English. Tram system was scrapped in favour of the car, just like in many parts of the world after the 60s.

Athens line 1 is among the oldest in the world, but wasn't expanded because of the wars, unrest and economic and political problems for most of the 20th century.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 04:51 PM   #471
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You're forgeting that Eta changed its phonetic value since antiquity. It was Athēnai, [atʰɛ̂ːnai].
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Antiquity is something big. In Attic? in Ionic dialects? Doric? In Koine? In so many other forms across regions and time periods? I think the thread is derailing.
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In classical antiquity. But you're right about derailment.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 01:15 PM   #474
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Tram system was scrapped in favour of the car, just like in many parts of the world after the 60s.
But if they think trams are not suitable for a speedy city life, why they returned it in Athens?

Another question, I read Pireaus, Syntagma & Faliro was served by former tram system, is it true? Please write some details...
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Old June 7th, 2014, 07:09 AM   #475
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New Athens metro trains set to enter service
Friday, June 06, 2014



ATHENS Metro authority Attiko Metro announced on June 5 that its new fleet of 17 Hyundai-Rotem trains for lines 2 and 3 has been approved for passenger operation, enabling the first sets to enter service over the next few days

The trains were ordered in 2009 in a deal worth €155m and deliveries began in 2011. Following the completion of the certification process, Attiko Metro has handed the fleet over to metro operator Stasy.

The 106m-long six-car trains will accommodate up to 1032 passengers (based on a maximum occupancy of 5 passengers/m2) and have a maximum speed of 80km/h.

A 5.5km extension of Line 2 from Aghios Dimitrios to Elliniko was inaugurated last July, while the 1.4km extension of Line 3 from Egaleo to Aghia Marina opened last December. A further 7.6km extension of Line 3 from Aghia Marina to Dimotiko Theatro in Piraeus is under construction and is due to open in 2017
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Old June 9th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #476
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Athens had an extended tram system (165Km /21 lines) until 1960s which covers most of Athens & Pireas city centers and connect them with most important neighbourhoods. We can say that they are 2 independent systems in each city connected by a branch through Kallithea. It was the main mean of transport in Athens at the start of the century (~25.000.000 passenger in 1910)



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After WW2, it was a clear political decision to promote vehicles usage instead of public transport. Tram system was left without any support (no repairs, old vehicles, usual failures etc.). After 1950, most lines was replaced by brand new buses or trolley buses.
The last tram ride in Athens network was on 15/10/1960. Only tram line from Pireas to Perama (an almsot new line constructed around 1910 - last constructed line of tram) was left in operation until 1977.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 04:11 AM   #477
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And now tramways are back everywhere because they are ecological...
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Athens had an extended tram system (165Km /21 lines) until 1960s which covers most of Athens & Pireas city centers and connect them with most important neighbourhoods. We can say that they are 2 independent systems in each city connected by a branch through Kallithea. It was the main mean of transport in Athens at the start of the century (~25.000.000 passenger in 1910)



More info in Greek here

After WW2, it was a clear political decision to promote vehicles usage instead of public transport. Tram system was left without any support (no repairs, old vehicles, usual failures etc.). After 1950, most lines was replaced by brand new buses or trolley buses.
The last tram ride in Athens network was on 15/10/1960. Only tram line from Pireas to Perama (an almsot new line constructed around 1910 - last constructed line of tram) was left in operation until 1977.
It means and shows the new tram is running on the same alingment of old tram? (following coastline). What was those old routes number and routes, is there any details following route by route? please post..
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Comparing with the old systems map, it is clear that the old network was much dense than present, within both Athens & Peraous, & both places are also connected by tram.

There are some common alignments of both old & new system –

1) Present route 3 & 4 uses former seaside routes from Batis to Faliro.
2) Syntagma terminus was also served by former network.
3) The future extension towards Platela Karaiskaki will aso use old network.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 10:57 PM   #480
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Athens had an extended tram system (165Km /21 lines) until 1960s which covers most of Athens & Pireas city centers and connect them with most important neighbourhoods. We can say that they are 2 independent systems in each city connected by a branch through Kallithea. It was the main mean of transport in Athens at the start of the century (~25.000.000 passenger in 1910)



More info in Greek here

After WW2, it was a clear political decision to promote vehicles usage instead of public transport. Tram system was left without any support (no repairs, old vehicles, usual failures etc.). After 1950, most lines was replaced by brand new buses or trolley buses.
The last tram ride in Athens network was on 15/10/1960. Only tram line from Pireas to Perama (an almsot new line constructed around 1910 - last constructed line of tram) was left in operation until 1977.
That was the trend back in the 50s & 60s. Althought the story behind trams in Athens back then it's not that simple. There were multiple problems with the tram company. After all, private cars were too few in Athens & Greece in general and the market too small till the late 60s. The press in the early 50s used to be positive about trolley busses and against trams. Was it a right decision? It seemed to be right back then, finally it was not. So the thing is that Athens is now in a very better position compared to 15 years ago.
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