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Old June 7th, 2009, 03:43 PM   #181
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i thought that this building has been built long time ago?
demolition started several years from now, and i've seen renders of the new project approximately at the same time...apparently, the pace of the construction is quite slow
at least that conclusion from my point of view
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Old June 17th, 2009, 06:26 AM   #182
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The "palace" felt nice - it was a typical modern skyscraper. That didn't have an erection.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 04:05 PM   #183
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You fail to make a point.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 07:13 PM   #184
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Must be some Ostalgie revisionist conspiracy.
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Old June 20th, 2009, 10:56 AM   #185
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Berlin Castle east facade

We're still fighting for this not to happen. We want the original Spree / East facade back


Some historical photos / postcards of it:


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The sorta famous "round corner"

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by ZENO.org - you get the full resolution there


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River Spree with the East Facade of the Castle

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The Pharmacy of the Castle

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How I love all this asymmetry and historical grown structures

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Old June 20th, 2009, 12:04 PM   #186
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I see. So it's not just the renders.

[img]http://i41.************/2mgr0au.jpg[/img]

Love the cathedral. It's still there, ain't it?
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:25 PM   #187
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No, it was destroyed 60 years ago and will be rebuilt soon.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:28 PM   #188
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When looking at these historic pictures it becomes apparent hat kind of shit country Germany has become.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 01:46 PM   #189
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No, it was destroyed 60 years ago and will be rebuilt soon.
It is still there. It's the Berliner Dom.



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Old June 21st, 2009, 02:17 PM   #190
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Berlin Cathedral / Berliner Dom - historical views / historische Ansichten

It's pretty much disfigured though.


Just compare the above views with this - Berliner Dom around 1900:


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Unique ensemble with Berlin Castle

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Old June 21st, 2009, 06:54 PM   #191
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When looking at these historic pictures it becomes apparent hat kind of shit country Germany has become.
You have grown up in Frankfurt, right? This must give you a bad impression.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 07:02 PM   #192
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You have grown up in Frankfurt, right? This must give you a bad impression.
At least Frankfurt has skyscrapers. A little compensation for the loss of historic architecture.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 09:28 PM   #193
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This thread isn't about Frankfurt so just stop this.


Btw, I remember you being a lot more constructive, Miau
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Old June 21st, 2009, 10:35 PM   #194
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It's pretty much disfigured though.
You say "disfigured" but what I'm seeing is only dirty.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 12:40 PM   #195
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He probably means the new "simplified" cupolas.

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after WW2:

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As the constructor of the new ones was the GDR (constantly short on money and building material) the obvious conclusion one would come to is that they were built this way to reduce cost.

The 'official' reason they're not rebuilding the original ones is that the stone structure supporting the main cupola was damaged during the war and wouldn't carry the much larger and heavier original design.
At least that's what the guides in the Berliner Dom tell the tourists and visitors.

The current cupolas are under historic preservation and some people actually like them more than the old ones (which they find too pretentious).

It's pretty certain they won't be rebuild in the near future.
However, I personally would like to see the Denkmalskirche rebuild (lower left of the first picture).
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 01:35 PM   #196
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Oh, now I see it. The old domes were definitely better.

Edit: Also, why is the building still being used for moss cultivation?

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Old June 22nd, 2009, 07:40 PM   #197
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He means the new "simplified" cupolas
Sure. Thought this would be obvious
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 08:04 PM   #198
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I have an extreme dislike of most things modern, so I will never be happy with this rebuilt "palace". But I guess its better then nothing.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 12:55 AM   #199
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Sure. Thought this would be obvious
Not really. From this photo it look like the spire is undergoing restoration (otherwise the domes look almost identical):

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But the spires could not be restored because of the damage? Did I at least get this right?
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 10:58 AM   #200
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I think it looks better without the spires. The old design was way to overladen with kitsch. The unfinished reconstruction points out the real proportions... (I'm going to get killed by Erbse and other nostalgics for this statement )
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