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Old March 16th, 2006, 06:39 AM   #21
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it looks much nicer than the current building, heh
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Old March 17th, 2006, 06:53 AM   #22
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Disgraceful fake lie to replace the palace. Replacing a palace of the people with a palace of military oppression suggests that the country has some severe issues with itself.

I think Berlin should acknowledge its fascinating and complex history instead of blotting out uncomfortable memories. Germany needs to keep memoreies of the worst parts of its past. They cant afford to be forgotten
I disagree . . . I think the Germans are well aware of their past. You only have to look at some of the aerials of Berlin to realize how much the past has cost them.

Great project and hopefully more to come...

Well done Berlin
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Old March 17th, 2006, 08:11 AM   #23
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Is the castle being rebuilt using the same materials as in the original?
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Old March 18th, 2006, 03:47 PM   #24
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Yes, the historic architecture of the Palace is documented in such detail through plans and photos, that it can be precisely reconstructed through traditional handicraft work.
Approximately seventy percent of the figurative sculptures from the Palace’s exterior still exist. Nevertheless, the stones of the cornices, windows, columns, and capitals were largely lost and only fragments are to be found in the storerooms of the museums and government offices. Copying them is relatively simple.
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Old March 19th, 2006, 02:14 AM   #25
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So it is a complete rebuild of both the exterior and interior? How much is this going to cost and what will its use be afterward, a museum/tourist attraction?

Fascinating project, wish we'd rebuild some of our lost gems back!
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Old March 19th, 2006, 02:29 AM   #26
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Shame, boo to Berlin.

Though the legitimacy of the "Peoples" Parliament is without question, this just smacks of a let's show 'em who's boss. The East German parliament could have been kept as a museum/monument.
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Old March 19th, 2006, 02:39 AM   #27
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this just smacks of a let's show 'em who's boss.
That's right and next we'll enslave those Ossis!
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Old March 20th, 2006, 11:16 PM   #28
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So it is a complete rebuild of both the exterior and interior?
The interior will be largely planned in a modern style. Only the most important historic suites will be rebuilt, but in a simpler form. Of the almost 1,000 rooms, less than 100 belong to this category. The Bundestag laid down in its decision, that the exterior of the Palace, that is the three baroque facades and the Schlüter Courtyard, should be reconstructed true to their original appearance. Wherever it can be reconciled with the plans for use, the historic suites are to rebuilt in their original format , albeit in a simpler form. Their completion will thereby be made possible for later generations.



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How much is this going to cost and what will its use be afterward, a museum/tourist attraction?
The construction costs, which total altogether 670 million Euros, will be financed as follows:

Private and Institutional Investors: 280 million Euros
Small holders: 80 million Euros
Government: 230 million Euros.
Construction of Palace Façades (donations) 80 million Euros.
GRAND TOTAL: 670 million Euros.

Note: It doesn't include the constructions of the rooms.
The reconstruction of one room would cost between 3 - 30 million Euros.
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Old March 22nd, 2006, 12:38 AM   #29
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Thanks, Lucky

Wow, so this is approaching a €1bn project, thats an incredible peice of conservation work! I admire the dedication to the project especially the private investment. What will the end use be for this amazing thing?
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 04:45 PM   #30
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The Castle will become a part of the so called "Humboldt Forum". A building for art, science and communication. Together with the Museumisland (http://www.museumsinsel-berlin.de/) it will besome the biggest cultural place for art in the world.


Some more historic photos of the castle







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Old March 24th, 2006, 04:13 PM   #31
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Those are some nice pre-war pics.

Thx!
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Old March 27th, 2006, 07:10 PM   #32
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Old March 28th, 2006, 05:04 PM   #33
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Hmm! the castle doesnt look very "yellow" in this pic.
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Old March 30th, 2006, 09:24 AM   #35
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Wow, that new palace is beautiful. It's a good idea to rebuild it as that other People's Palace is terrible. It's not suitable for dt Berlin; it's the kind of building commonly found besides highways in suburbia. They should rebuild more of the beautiful buildings destroyed in WWII.

BTW, what happenned to the original palace? WWII or commies?
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after the ww2 the palace was destroyed
and the GDR destroyed it completely






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Old March 31st, 2006, 05:49 PM   #37
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Fake, lies, ignorance of the past, replacing a palace of the people with a palace of a repressive government, devaluation pof genuine heritage. In a few years time no one will know whats old and whats new in germany. i think this project stinks.
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Old March 31st, 2006, 07:50 PM   #38
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"Palace of the people" You obviously don't have a clue or you're a Communist. The people had nothing to say in East Germany, as a matter of fact they were prisoners in their own country.

Is the bell tower on St Mark's Square in Venice a fake in your opinion as well? Because it had to be rebuilt in the early 20th century

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Old April 1st, 2006, 10:19 AM   #39
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Is the bell tower on St Mark's Square in Venice a fake in your opinion as well? Because it had to be rebuilt in the early 20th century
Sorry, but you can't compare the two. The rebuilding of Campanile started almost immediatly after it had collapsed in 1902 and was opened to the public 10 years later. The remains of the castle in Berlin were intentionally destroyed AND replaced with another building that represents an era in German history.
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When I went to Berlin last year for the Christopher St Parade (which was a lot of fun) I actually was disapointed with Berlin as a city.

We stayed in the former West Berlin but it still had a 'commie' feel to it. Maybe this is German law on things like opening on Sundays and stuff but things shut early, not at all on sundays, it was like stepping back into the 1970's.

I think Berlin should be trying to rebuild some of beautiful buildings that were destroyed either by the war or the communists.

Even when new build has gone up, say on potsdammer platz somehow they managed to make the former swinging centre of Berlin into a place with less humanity than Canary Wharf or La Defense.

Berlin should be making a bigger play on its hedonistic reputation with cabaret and roaring 20's stuff.
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