[Czech Republic] Railways - Page 14

historyworks · June 29th, 2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HiRazor

And because ČD supposedly stands for "času dost",

času dost - I love it! That was certainly my experience of ČD, and it was OK because I was on holidays

kokpit · June 29th, 2008, 10:34 PM

New connection in Prague is nearing completion

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headshottt · June 30th, 2008, 05:38 AM

historyworks · June 30th, 2008, 07:01 AM

Those catenary portal designs are great stuff!

kokpit · June 30th, 2008, 09:06 AM

portals closeup

kokpit · June 30th, 2008, 03:06 PM

Main railway station in Prague will be closed during summer for most trains due to reconstruction

Marek.kvackaj · July 1st, 2008, 01:45 AM

vynikajuce fotky a krasny projekt...

kokpit · July 1st, 2008, 08:18 PM

more pics here http://www.k-report.net/diskuse/mess...ml#POST1093446

headshottt · July 1st, 2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kokpit

more pics here http://www.k-report.net/diskuse/mess...ml#POST1093446

Nice, nice and nice again!

headshottt · July 1st, 2008, 11:26 PM

http://www.praha-kladno.cz/promedia/

Visualizations of fast-rail between Prague center, airport Ruzyně and Kladno

vlker · July 2nd, 2008, 12:13 AM

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http://www.praha-kladno.cz/promedia/

Visualizations of fast-rail between Prague center, airport Ruzyně and Kladno

OMG!!! I really dont understand this project. There will be metro in about 10 years, so why build another "U-bahn", which will be in the most of the line in tunnel. There you've got ortofoto: http://www.praha-kladno.cz/files/zakres-situace.jpg After a huge mess caused by construction of city ring on Letná and Dejvice they would start to construct another digging(hloubený) tunnel?? Oh yeah...

Prague will have 2 connections to airport and Brno-Přerov-(Ostrava) railway will be 19th century-single-track-f*cking nightmare for eternities

That's why Brno citizens don't like Praguers

vlker · July 2nd, 2008, 12:16 AM

And one more comment. Why is Prague-Airport-Kladno track designed only for 80kph??? Some reason?? Just wasting of money. While it will be almost all in tunnel, there should be design speed at least 160kph.

historyworks · July 2nd, 2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vlker

And one more comment. Why is Prague-Airport-Kladno track designed only for 80kph??? Some reason?? Just wasting of money. While it will be almost all in tunnel, there should be design speed at least 160kph.

160kph between Ruzyně and Kladno! I hope the train has good brakes or it will not stop until Plzen! On the other hand I agree 80kph seems slow ("času dost"

- what about 110?

Bobek_Azbest · July 2nd, 2008, 09:35 AM

There will be metro in about 10 years
Well I'll bet my shoes that there won't be metro connection to the airport in 10 years. It could be to Motol, if all goes well.

Personally I hope that the metro connection will be abandoned, line A from Motol rerouted to Řepy and Zličín. It also makes perfect sense from the city's viewpoint: while the metro would be investment of mainly it's own money, rail link would be financed by SZDC.

Why is Prague-Airport-Kladno track designed only for 80kph??? Some reason??
No need for higher speeds, since the trains will stop every 2-3kms anyway. And the part to Kladno is planned for 100-120kph.

headshottt · July 2nd, 2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vlker

That's why Brno citizens don't like Praguers

Why? I don't understand it

Metro will be built from EU and Prague's money. It's Prague's problem. Connection between biggest state airport and state rail network (Hlavní nádraží) is state's problem. Ruzyně is very fast growing airport and it must be in the interest of every citizen of CZ. Including citizens from Brno.

vlker · July 2nd, 2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by headshottt

Why? I don't understand it

Metro will be built from EU and Prague's money. It's Prague's problem. Connection between biggest state airport and state rail network (Hlavní nádraží) is state's problem. Ruzyně is very fast growing airport and it must be in the interest of every citizen of CZ. Including citizens from Brno.

Yes, I understand it, but what I commented were 2 paralel planed connections. I know that metro will be from Prague budget and railway connection will be from SŽDC. They should choose one of them. As wrote bobek_azbest - It seems reasonable that metro will end at Motol and railway connetion will be for suburban trains from Kladno and of course for airport travelling.

I was only angry because of that two paralel tracks for a lot of money. It looks like all the money comes to Prague and in Brno (except MÚK Hlinky and one tunnel across Krpole) there are almost no investment to infrastructure.

HiRazor · July 2nd, 2008, 11:47 AM

vlker: unlike Prague MO, which is paid by Prague, Brno builds it's VMO from state budget. Brno deserves to be as hated as Prague if not more for draining the state budget for infrastructure projects.

That doesn't mean metro to airport is not an outright stupidity. But as Bobek suggests I don't believe the metro will ever reach the airport, at least not in the currently proposed way and not in foreseeable future. It's just way too nonsensical from economical standpoint.

headshottt · July 2nd, 2008, 12:06 PM

right!

vlker · July 2nd, 2008, 01:30 PM

No flame please

I know that Brno has its city ring financed from SFDI and Ministry of transportation budget. Prague has its R1 and new railway connection.

Now it seems reasonable for me. Airport really needs new connection to mass transportation system. I just didnt understand why are 2 different track planned. And, as you said, metro will hardly reach airport in 10 years, so I vote for railway track. I thought that it's 100% known that construction of metro A to airport will start in few years. So I was angry that another tunnel track is in planning. I knew that something between Holešovice and airport will be constructed, but it really surprised me, that It will be for almost whole lenght in tunnel.

Anyway, when will be constructuion of metro A next stretch started??

headshottt · July 2nd, 2008, 01:47 PM

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Anyway, when will be constructuion of metro A next stretch started??

In the second part of next year.

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vlker VUT Brno in SSC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brno, Czech republic Posts: 294 Likes (Received): 0	And one more comment. Why is Prague-Airport-Kladno track designed only for 80kph??? Some reason?? Just wasting of money. While it will be almost all in tunnel, there should be design speed at least 160kph.

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Bobek_Azbest Blah blah blah Join Date: May 2008 Location: Prague Posts: 1,117 Likes (Received): 3	There will be metro in about 10 years Well I'll bet my shoes that there won't be metro connection to the airport in 10 years. It could be to Motol, if all goes well. Personally I hope that the metro connection will be abandoned, line A from Motol rerouted to Řepy and Zličín. It also makes perfect sense from the city's viewpoint: while the metro would be investment of mainly it's own money, rail link would be financed by SZDC. Why is Prague-Airport-Kladno track designed only for 80kph??? Some reason?? No need for higher speeds, since the trains will stop every 2-3kms anyway. And the part to Kladno is planned for 100-120kph.

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HiRazor Serious Bohemian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Caput regni Bohemiae Posts: 439 Likes (Received): 8	vlker: unlike Prague MO, which is paid by Prague, Brno builds it's VMO from state budget. Brno deserves to be as hated as Prague if not more for draining the state budget for infrastructure projects. That doesn't mean metro to airport is not an outright stupidity. But as Bobek suggests I don't believe the metro will ever reach the airport, at least not in the currently proposed way and not in foreseeable future. It's just way too nonsensical from economical standpoint.

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vlker VUT Brno in SSC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brno, Czech republic Posts: 294 Likes (Received): 0	No flame please I know that Brno has its city ring financed from SFDI and Ministry of transportation budget. Prague has its R1 and new railway connection. Now it seems reasonable for me. Airport really needs new connection to mass transportation system. I just didnt understand why are 2 different track planned. And, as you said, metro will hardly reach airport in 10 years, so I vote for railway track. I thought that it's 100% known that construction of metro A to airport will start in few years. So I was angry that another tunnel track is in planning. I knew that something between Holešovice and airport will be constructed, but it really surprised me, that It will be for almost whole lenght in tunnel. Anyway, when will be constructuion of metro A next stretch started??