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Old January 15th, 2015, 01:59 PM   #2561
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During a storm in the first years after inauguration, a heavy steel girder just dropped out of the facade unto a staircase. Luckily due to the storm no-one was in the way.
Sadly DB saved on the architecture and never created the cavernous ceilings intended for the underground platforms. Thus the lower level platforms look a bit bland, like an underground garage.
As a frequent traveler from that station though I must say though that it is fairly efficient for use, in and out usually takes just a few minutes and is self-explanatory despite the numerous levels and long distances.
Where the Hauptbahnhof has failed is to become an urban center in itself. While shops and cafés at Zoo or even Ostbahnhof tend to be filled up on Sundays and even late at night, Hauptbahnhof falls into slumber even before the last night train has departed. In daytime, it is just part of the tourist circuit, nothing which really attracts locals.
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Old January 15th, 2015, 06:37 PM   #2562
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Thank you for the vids Svartmetall!
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Old January 16th, 2015, 09:19 AM   #2563
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Where the Hauptbahnhof has failed is to become an urban center in itself. While shops and cafés at Zoo or even Ostbahnhof tend to be filled up on Sundays and even late at night, Hauptbahnhof falls into slumber even before the last night train has departed.
It's to early to pass judgement on that. It takes several decades for an urban centre to develop. There wasn't much around Bahnhof Zoo for decades after it was build either...
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Old January 16th, 2015, 07:51 PM   #2564
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Hehe, the thumbnail was taken in my childhood town of Bischofshofen.
You a member, KingNicK? http://www.stuermische-boehmische.com/

I mean, twice in two days do I encounter this town. What are the odds?!
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Old January 16th, 2015, 08:05 PM   #2565
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I mean, twice in two days do I encounter this town. What are the odds?!
I left the place a long time ago, but I happen to know three of these musicians.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 08:18 PM   #2566
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I left the place a long time ago, but I happen to know three of these musicians.
Thanks. I always thought I hated polka but these guys are making it tough for me. I'll need to let it sink a bit...
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Old January 16th, 2015, 08:48 PM   #2567
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Few photos of the Hauptbahnhof too of my own from December 23rd last year.








S-bahn platforms (upper platforms).




It's a long way down.





Lower level.







Escalators and elevators.

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Old January 17th, 2015, 04:52 AM   #2568
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Something I like about Berlin Hbf. is the abundance of lifts. They are very helpful and sorely lacking in many major train stations in Europe.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 09:20 AM   #2569
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Something I like about Berlin Hbf. is the abundance of lifts. They are very helpful and sorely lacking in many major train stations in Europe.
Indeed. The fact there is an awful lot of routes for passenger distribution around the station also helps to reduce overcrowding for the future too when the district becomes more built up. It is clearly happening as evidenced by the tram expansion and new construction around there (heck the hotel I stayed in was built in the last couple of years).
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Old January 17th, 2015, 07:27 PM   #2570
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Yes, the municipality has a new part of town planned to the north of the station which is supposed to be twice the size of Potsdamer Platz post-1990 construction. Unfortunately they seem to go for a rather dull office site rather than a well-balanced mix of functions in this "Euro City" on the grounds of these former rail freight yards. Prices and pressure can already be felt in the adjacent rather poor neighborhood of Moabit, where developers are pushing tenants off land they want to turn into gold.
Transport-wise, the tram extension to Naturkundemuseum, as Svartmetal describes, has finally been inaugurated and trams running to Prenzlauer Berg and beyond will make Hauptbahnhof better connected. There is also construction underway for an S-Bahn extension to the north to link S-Bahns up to Wedding and Jungfernheide, but this will still take several years, although these links were envisaged as part of the original concept for Hauptbahnhof.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 03:09 AM   #2571
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Something I like about Berlin Hbf. is the abundance of lifts. They are very helpful and sorely lacking in many major train stations in Europe.
Actually the lifts are a very weak point of that station, they were criticized a lot.

Yes, there are many of them and in the right place, but they have a big problem: they are awfully slow, and people don't understand that they are supposed to call them in a specific direction* so there's plenty of unnecessary stops. Since they are all placed in a unique position (meaning that you can't take another one to move between two platforms), the looong wait will make them useless if you really have to get a train.

In my opinion they should have built a double squared lift istead of a single rounded one, in the same space, with the two cabs moving symmetrically to be idiot-proof

Yes, a less clean design, but much more functional... and they still can apply this solution.

*the concepts of having two directional buttons to call a lift, and that a thermostat is an on/off switch based on a threshold, are two things the general public will NEVER understand.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 10:38 AM   #2572
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Haha, you don't have much faith in the general public do you? Two directional buttons are the norm in most of the world aren't they? I mean, every country I've visited or lived in have them...
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Anyway, just for another couple of videos showcasing the extensive stations in Berlin.

Firstly, a DB Regio train at Hauptbahnhof as well as an S-bahn train interrupting my view.





Journey between Hauptbahnhof and Alexanderplatz on a rainy, dull day. I hope to go back and capture this same journey in the summer or at least on a day when it is less rainy!





Finally, Alexanderplatz station with some S-bahn departures. The stations really do look nice and well presented. I only wish the main station in Stockholm at platform and passageway level looked as good as these do. Berlin has some of the best stations and infrastructure outside of Japanese cities that I've come across, despite its age.

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Haha, you don't have much faith in the general public do you? Two directional buttons are the norm in most of the world aren't they? I mean, every country I've visited or lived in have them...
Yes, and the same applies for the thermostat. But still most people can't grab the idea that blasting the temperature knob is not going to make the heater work faster

So in Berlin Hbf you regularly see people boarding an elevator even if it's going in the wrong direction, so they will pack it and the capacity (already poor due to the speed) will drop.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 11:59 PM   #2575
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I'll just leave this here...



On Saturday the 10th of January 2015, Alstom-built Coradia LINT unit 620.032 was working a service towards Trier as it made a stop at St. Thomas station. This unit is part of a larger pool of new DMU vehicles, which were ordered for the new "Vareo" concession.
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 04:48 PM   #2576
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A walkthrough of Potsdamer Platz station from the regionalbahn/long distance section to the S-bahn platforms.

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Old January 25th, 2015, 01:54 PM   #2577
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Racing an ICE train on the Berlin S-bahn!





From Hauptbahnhof to Tiergarten - S-bahn racing a DB Regio train.

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Old February 1st, 2015, 05:44 PM   #2578
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S bahn Munich S2 new(old S A) Dachau - Altomünster


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^ been and seen exceelent
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Old February 3rd, 2015, 02:03 AM   #2580
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Škoda will deliver 38 RegioPanter EMUs for the Nuremberg Norimberk S-Bahn that will be operated by National Express.



The value of the contract to Škoda is CZK 10 BLN ( € ~370 MLN). The EMUs have to be delivered in 2018.

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