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Old February 17th, 2016, 12:39 PM   #2941
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But how is it possible that the interlocking system allowed the two signalmen to open itineraries in opposite directions on a single track ? There's something I don't get here...
Simple: it doesn't allow that, you need to override the system, using a Zs1 aspect to do that.
The explanation of AlexNL doesn't mention what this Zs1 aspect is: The Zs1 signal aspect, called Ersatzsignal in German, is a signal aspect that was originally meant to allow drivers to proceed in case a mechanical signal jammed. Nowadays it is regularly used by the signaller to allow drivers to do something otherwise not allowed by the interlocking. Downside is that there is no safety checking by the interlocking/signalling at all when you use this aspect. In this case it has allowed the signaller to have 2 train enter the same track from opposite ends.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 01:30 PM   #2942
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Nowadays it is regularly used by the signaller to allow drivers to do something otherwise not allowed by the interlocking. Downside is that there is no safety checking by the interlocking/signalling at all when you use this aspect. In this case it has allowed the signaller to have 2 train enter the same track from opposite ends.
I would have expected more stringent controls to come with such an override, warning the drivers, strict speed limits and two way radio's spring to mind. There is no point in having interlocks if they can be overridden willy nilly and allow operations to proceed as if nothing has changed.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 07:55 PM   #2943
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Simple: it doesn't allow that, you need to override the system, using a Zs1 aspect to do that.
The explanation of AlexNL doesn't mention what this Zs1 aspect is: The Zs1 signal aspect, called Ersatzsignal in German, is a signal aspect that was originally meant to allow drivers to proceed in case a mechanical signal jammed. Nowadays it is regularly used by the signaller to allow drivers to do something otherwise not allowed by the interlocking. Downside is that there is no safety checking by the interlocking/signalling at all when you use this aspect. In this case it has allowed the signaller to have 2 train enter the same track from opposite ends.
Ok, crystal clear now. Here this Zs1 aspect doesn't exist, signal override orders are delivered on paper forms.
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I would have expected more stringent controls to come with such an override, warning the drivers, strict speed limits and two way radio's spring to mind. There is no point in having interlocks if they can be overridden willy nilly and allow operations to proceed as if nothing has changed.

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Old February 17th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #2944
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Simple: it doesn't allow that, you need to override the system, using a Zs1 aspect to do that.
The explanation of AlexNL doesn't mention what this Zs1 aspect is: The Zs1 signal aspect, called Ersatzsignal in German, is a signal aspect that was originally meant to allow drivers to proceed in case a mechanical signal jammed. Nowadays it is regularly used by the signaller to allow drivers to do something otherwise not allowed by the interlocking. Downside is that there is no safety checking by the interlocking/signalling at all when you use this aspect. In this case it has allowed the signaller to have 2 train enter the same track from opposite ends.
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I would have expected more stringent controls to come with such an override, warning the drivers, strict speed limits and two way radio's spring to mind. There is no point in having interlocks if they can be overridden willy nilly and allow operations to proceed as if nothing has changed.

The act was likely against regulations. And I think there are a lot of instances of unregulated overrides throughout Germany's rail networks.

Massive lawsuits pending.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 10:41 PM   #2945
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Old February 21st, 2016, 09:51 AM   #2946
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Where can I get a map of all railway route in Germany?
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Old February 21st, 2016, 08:53 PM   #2947
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Here is a network map, Ive seen large passanger route maps next to the door in ICs & ICEs so I imagine its pretty easy to find on google
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Old February 21st, 2016, 09:09 PM   #2948
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Where can I get a map of all railway route in Germany?
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 10:21 AM   #2949
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Where can I get a map of all railway route in Germany?
You can find one on DB Netze's website, this map includes all technical details.

By default the map only shows lines that are managed by DB Netze. If you want to see everything (including track that is not or no longer maintained by DB), set the "choice of lines" dropdown to "all lines".
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 02:00 PM   #2950
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Where can I get a map of all railway route in Germany?
As for scalable maps there is the OpenRailwayMap as well as the transport layer of the OSM.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 05:11 PM   #2951
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That's a cool site you linked to(OpenRailwayMap).
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 02:29 AM   #2952
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DB Schenker Rail rebrands as DB Cargo

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Old March 3rd, 2016, 10:09 PM   #2953
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This is a video and photo report about a recent trip between Amsterdam and Berlin.
Up until December 2014 Deutsche Bahn offered a direct sleeping car connection between both cities. However, that connection was cut back to Cologne.
This time, I had to change in Düsseldorf. First I travelled with CityNightLine train CNL 419 in a seating car. In Düsseldorf I switched to the EuroNight train EN 447 Cologne - Prague/Warsaw and could finallly enter my private single sleeping car cabin.

Sadely it is expected that Deutsche Bahn will cancel all night trains alltogether by December 2016.
So, I hurried to catch that (soon to be historic) train.

Amsterdam Centraal:





CityNightLine train CNL 419 Amsterdam - Munich/Zuerich:







Seating car - reservation compulsory:





EuroNight EN 447 Jan Kiepura Cologne - Warsaw:





Sleeping Car Cologne - Prague, operated by Czech Railways:









Private sleeping car cabin between Duesseldorf and Berlin (CNL Cologne - Prague):









Seating car, formerly owned by OEBB:







Through cars Cologne - Prague are attached to the EuroCity train EC 171 in Berlin:





Youtube video, featuring all details of the sleeping car trip between Amsterdam and Berlin:





Here is the direct link to the video in case the video does not load here:
Link to Youtube video

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Old March 4th, 2016, 02:42 PM   #2954
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Koln-Warsaw is operated by PKP not by DB as far as I know so it has chances to survive after the end of the year...

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Old March 4th, 2016, 09:31 PM   #2955
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Koln-Warsaw is operated by PKP not by DB as far as I know so it has chances to survive after the end of the year...
The EuroNight train Cologne-Warsaw is definitely operated by Deutsche Bahn (DB Fernverkehr) between Cologne and Berlin.
Between Berlin and Warsaw the through cars are attached to the EuroCity Berlin-Warsaw train six times a week.
That EuroCity is jointly operated by DB Fernverkehr and PKP InterCity.
When DB Fernverkehr is ceasing all classical night trains by December 2016, the Cologne-Warsaw train has virtually no future.
Of course, Cesky Drahy and PKP InterCity may decide to finance the Cologne-Prague/Warsaw train beyond December 2016. DB Fernverkehr will be happy to
provide the locomotive and logistics in Germany for good money. However, I doubt that the ticket prices will cover these costs, thus, PKP InterCity and Cesky Drahy will most likely loose money in that. No Chance!
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Old March 6th, 2016, 03:02 PM   #2956
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So I guess this also means the end of Basel - Frankfurt - Berlin - Warsaw trains, with cars continuing to Moscow?
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Old March 6th, 2016, 04:19 PM   #2957
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So I guess this also means the end of Basel - Frankfurt - Berlin - Warsaw trains, with cars continuing to Moscow?
What are you talking about?
There is no Basel - Frankfurt - Berlin - Warsaw train.
There are no certainly no cars continuing to Moscow.
We are not in 2011 anymore.
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Old March 7th, 2016, 06:14 PM   #2958
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No, the train will be cancelled.

http://zpravy.e15.cz/byznys/doprava-...-ubyva-1277096
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Old March 9th, 2016, 06:20 AM   #2959
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It is strange. I used a night train in Germany (although it wasn't intended by me, I wanted to go by a daytime ICE) in January - it was a train that was going from Hamburg to Basel - and it was pretty full. On some section there was no more free seats in my compartment. So it isn't so that these trains are empty, this is not the reason why they are going to cancel them...

And while I can understand that the trains on inland routes within Germany are fast and it takes a few hours to get from one side of the country to the other by ICE trains, which, in addition, provide more comfort, so that it's practically no point in using the overnight connections, it is not so with longer journeys through the Europe.

They don't write anything about Kiepura in this article. But they write about Kopernikus (Prague-Cologne), which is the same train between Berlin Ostbf and Cologne, and between Wrocław and Berlin this is in fact a group of carriages in the Warsaw-Berlin train...
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Old March 9th, 2016, 09:32 AM   #2960
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I think the reason behind this cancellation is not the lack of passengers, but the total
production costs : the fleet of night carriages is getting old and needs either a renewal or
a massive overhaul, which cannot be funded with the revenue DB gets from those trains.

Also, those trains seats or bunks can only be sold once per day, and the cars sit idle
for at least half the time, so it is difficult to recover their costs.
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