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Old November 20th, 2016, 01:54 AM   #3141
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Old December 5th, 2016, 12:50 PM   #3142
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As an aftermath of the Bad Aibling train crash...
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A German court has sentenced a train controller to three and a half years in jail over a rail disaster in Bavaria which killed 12 people and injured 89.
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Old December 15th, 2016, 11:47 AM   #3143
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New low cost train-company in Germany

Budget airlines have since long sent people back and forth across the continent.

But with trains, it is more complicated, partly because of concerns about low wages and poor working conditions.

In Germany, Locomore a company established with public funding is now challenging the airlines.

The first orange Locomore train left Stuttgart to Berlin and it was certainly not an unusual departure in the morning.

The virgin-journey was 40 minutes late, after "internal coordination problems," according to German media.

Locomore has started with the help of 600,000 euros collected from the public via the Internet, reports AFP.

We offer a new service to compete with cars, airplanes, and express-buses but also with the Deutsche Bahn (DB, German Railways), says the director and founder Derek Ladewig to the news agency.


Initially Locomore only runs one outward and return trip a day between Stuttgart and Berlin, via Frankfurt and Hannover.
The journey takes just over an hour longer than the trains of the german state railways, but on the other hand, the cheapest ticket costs only 22 euros, well below the cheapest DB tickets.


The orange trains are not the first to take up the competition with the German Federal Railways. Since the traffic was opened up in 1994, several small companies are involved, particularly in regional traffic. Still DB dominates completely, holding 99 % of the long-distance trains and 72 % at the regional level, according to AFP.
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Old December 16th, 2016, 12:46 AM   #3144
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Most of those small regional train operators are actually companies based on foreign capital, they usually belong to the rail operators from other countries. Some of them belong to cities, counties or states. If there are any really private ones in Germany, there must be few of them.

A private train operator, with which Locomore can compare, is, for example, Leo Express in Czech Republic.
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Old December 16th, 2016, 10:36 AM   #3145
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I camed here because on a Romanian forum some mentioned that D.B. went down... and I see he was right. Thought this thing only happened in Romania.
Is tha true that the new I.C.E. trains are having reliability problems and a lot of dinning cars aren't well mentained?
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Old December 17th, 2016, 06:16 PM   #3146
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Most of those small regional train operators are actually companies based on foreign capital, they usually belong to the rail operators from other countries. Some of them belong to cities, counties or states. If there are any really private ones in Germany, there must be few of them.

A private train operator, with which Locomore can compare, is, for example, Leo Express in Czech Republic.
Germany has its fair share of private operators. Other examples are National express, NOB, Arriva (albeit owned by DB), BOB, ODEG etc
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Old December 18th, 2016, 10:41 AM   #3147
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Old December 18th, 2016, 07:08 PM   #3148
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Germany has its fair share of private operators. Other examples are National express, NOB, Arriva (albeit owned by DB), BOB, ODEG etc
Arriva no longer operates in Germany, they were forced to sell off their German business when DB acquired them. The German business was sold to the Italian state railway (FS), operating under the brand name 'Netinera'.
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Old December 18th, 2016, 07:21 PM   #3149
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We need more private operators instead of just a cross-border state-railway ownership of foreign train operators. The best (sole?) European example is NTV in Italy, which is really an independent private train operator with fleet and network big enough to make an impact in the market.

Anyway, there are also those open-access non-contracted private companies operating Essen-Frankfurt and Hamburg-Leipzig train services right?
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Old December 19th, 2016, 02:04 AM   #3150
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Doesn't some of the NTV capital come from SNCF ? I think there must be better example than that. Leo Express perhaps ? Or South West trains ?

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Old December 19th, 2016, 02:52 PM   #3151
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Anyway, there are also those open-access non-contracted private companies operating Essen-Frankfurt and Hamburg-Leipzig train services right?
Who are they? Arriva in its heyday had a few daily runs leipzig-berlin-rostock, was kind of useful, but too few to base a trip on, then gave up. Hamburg-Cologne-Express had high hopes, but has shrunk its operations to become nearly insignificant. Both of these and Locomore are no real threat to the omnipresent ICE and IC running every hour on all major routes in the country. A German NTV that could challenge DB for comfort and/or price and at least draw equal in punctuality and accessibility would be something to die for, but nobody seems to dare. There was some talk of SNCF competing on some of the main routes, but it has been a long time and nothing seems to have happened. Anyways, it would be very difficult to squeeze into the schedule, which is very tight for the main agglomerations (or DB has successfully used that argument to give competitors, like Thalys between Cologne and Dortmund, rather unfitting time slots), as there is usually no separate routes or platforms for HS in Germany, but ICEs must share their routes with local and IC trains.
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Old December 19th, 2016, 03:25 PM   #3152
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Old December 19th, 2016, 04:28 PM   #3153
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Arriva no longer operates in Germany, they were forced to sell off their German business when DB acquired them. The German business was sold to the Italian state railway (FS), operating under the brand name 'Netinera'.
Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding, I had presumed that ALEX was still an Arriva franchise.
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Old December 19th, 2016, 04:42 PM   #3154
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Old December 20th, 2016, 07:39 PM   #3155
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In this image, probably from a Russian station, you can appreciate the enormous distance that separates the platform from the box of the Talgo trailers.


This is because the trains will be able to change width, but only have one measures, and each one will be the most restrictive of those of the gauge of the four countries that cross the Strizh trains. In this case they have a normal box: 2942 mm of maximum width.





In Russia they have a smaller width than the Iberian but, due to being a little mountainous country and having a network with few tunnels, its gauge is very wide: the Velaro Rus has 3.265 mm, 65 more than the Avril. Apart from the Nordic countries (the Oaris for Norway will be no less than 3,300 mm), China, Shinkansen and others, this also occurs in Kazakhstan (logical) and in India; The second Kazakh series has a wide box (3,200 mm) and the only complaint in India has been the "narrowness" of the Talgo IV and, therefore, it did not have 3 + 2 seats.

Well, worse is in the UK where, in large part of the network, after war of the widths, inherited the gauge Stephenson, which forces that the trains normally have only about 2,730 mm.


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In Russia they have a smaller width than the Iberian but, due to being a little mountainous country and having a network with few tunnels, its gauge is very wide: the Velaro Rus has 3.265 mm, 65 more than the Avril. Apart from the Nordic countries (the Oaris for Norway will be no less than 3,300 mm), China, Shinkansen and others, this also occurs in Kazakhstan (logical) and in India; The second Kazakh series has a wide box (3,200 mm) and the only complaint in India has been the "narrowness" of the Talgo IV and, therefore, it did not have 3 + 2 seats.
The Russian (ex-Soviet) gauge is even wider than the Velaro Rus train. Aeroexpress in Moscow is 3,400mm wide, FLIRT trains in Estonia are 3,500mm wide.

High platforms have to be 1,920 mm from the centre of the track so this leaves approximately 45cm between the Talgo carriage and a Russian platform, more so when it's a curved platform.
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 02:25 AM   #3158
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Germany has its fair share of private operators. Other examples are National express, NOB, Arriva (albeit owned by DB), BOB, ODEG etc
Mostly not really private, or if private, then foreign capital.

National Express - private British
NOB - private French
Arriva - supposedly not operating in Germany any more, by the way - as you said, it's state German (daughter company of the Deutsche Bahn)
BOB - again private French
ODEG - 50% state Italian, 24,5% private British, 25,5% municipal German

None of them is actually private and German at the same time.

From the small German train companies I know:

SWEG - regional German
AVG - municipal German
Trilex - private Italian
UBB - state German

Also nothing private German.

In Poland we have a similar situation, we have some independent train operators, but most of them are regional Polish, one (Arriva) is state German - and that's all.
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