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Old January 27th, 2011, 03:42 AM   #761
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Do those intercity trains have cafes or serve food?
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Old January 27th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #762
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They will only have seat service provided with a cart, similar to regional trains and other long-distance trains.
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Old January 29th, 2011, 12:26 PM   #763
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does that mean some poor fellow has to carry the cart up- and downstairs at the end of each waggon? great job
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Old January 29th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #764
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haha - the double wagons are mostly very ugly, but pragmatic, i like them. Specially the metro in Zurich!
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Old January 30th, 2011, 10:34 AM   #765
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does that mean some poor fellow has to carry the cart up- and downstairs at the end of each waggon? great job
The carts will be able to go up and down stairs, although this kind of cards still have to be developed.
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Old January 30th, 2011, 10:34 AM   #766
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Does anyone have information on that train crash in Germany last night?
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Old January 30th, 2011, 11:05 AM   #767
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Does anyone have information on that train crash in Germany last night?
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Old January 30th, 2011, 11:11 AM   #768
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A commuter train crashed into a cargo train. 10 dead, 40 injured.
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Old January 30th, 2011, 11:24 AM   #769
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Old January 30th, 2011, 11:32 AM   #770
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Summary of news reports in English: a late evening commuter train from Magdeburg to Halberstadt operated by the private HEX company ran headlong into a standing freight train loaded with chalk. The DMU derailed and the victims were killed mostly instantaneously. As the signal was green and there was intense fog, the engineer did not brake speed at all. As the injured are partially still in a serious condition, the death toll may still rise. There is no explanation yet officially, but commentators have started blaming DB's neglect of infrastructure off hand.
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Old January 30th, 2011, 04:45 PM   #771
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Old January 30th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #772
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Summary of news reports in English: a late evening commuter train from Magdeburg to Halberstadt operated by the private HEX company ran headlong into a standing freight train loaded with chalk. The DMU derailed and the victims were killed mostly instantaneously. As the signal was green and there was intense fog, the engineer did not brake speed at all. As the injured are partially still in a serious condition, the death toll may still rise. There is no explanation yet officially, but commentators have started blaming DB's neglect of infrastructure off hand.
Shouldn't be the case that we require train passengers to use restraints, a.k.a, seat-belts? It can prevent lots of injuries and deaths in such collisions. This should come together with a long-due ban on standing passengers travelling in non-completely isolated railways. We use them on cars, we use them on planes, we shall use them on railways to reduce death risks.
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Main risk in rail accidents is being crushed, not being thrown away; this happens because the main crumple zone is the car itself.

Anyway, I wouldn't refuse a serious study about this issue.
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Shouldn't be the case that we require train passengers to use restraints, a.k.a, seat-belts? It can prevent lots of injuries and deaths in such collisions. This should come together with a long-due ban on standing passengers travelling in non-completely isolated railways. We use them on cars, we use them on planes, we shall use them on railways to reduce death risks.
Accidents are so rare that such a measure would probably be counterproductive. Passenger deaths in railway travel are already so low that the risk is statistically insignificant. In most European countries the number or railway passengers killed in train collisions is 0 in most years.
The loss of comfort an convenience that the measure you propose would cause is however not negligible. This should be considered too. What you propose would make train travel less attractive, while not contributing in any statistically significant way to safety. Making train travel less convenient will encourage people to switch to less safe modes of transportation, leading to a significant increase in transport related deaths.

The only meaningful measure here would be installing ATP, provided this hasn't been done already.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 10:27 AM   #775
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Shouldn't be the case that we require train passengers to use restraints, a.k.a, seat-belts? It can prevent lots of injuries and deaths in such collisions. This should come together with a long-due ban on standing passengers travelling in non-completely isolated railways. We use them on cars, we use them on planes, we shall use them on railways to reduce death risks.
This idea comes up from time to time, but at the high speeds a train goes at if like in this case, nobody hits the emergency brake, seat belts do not help, but rather add to injury.
There are other solutions. A spokesperson last night said that the route was being equipped with a system to automatically brake a train in case the engineer misses a signal. These are mandatory on lines operating at above 100 kmh, but as that is not the case for the Halberstadt line, the technology was being added here little by little and unfortunately not on the track where the accident occurred.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #776
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Intercity Express from Munich to Berlin takes 7~8 hours?!!! WTF! It is only around 590 kilometers, why the long travel time?

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Old February 19th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #777
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The fastest trains (one every hour) take around 6 hours, but a new HSL is under construction.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 01:01 AM   #778
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The fastest trains (one every hour) take around 6 hours, but a new HSL is under construction.
That is totally unacceptable. A car travelling at decent speeds (150km/h when unlimited, under the limit elsewhere) will do the highways portion of such trip in less than 6 hours. A shame on the system. Good to know they are building a HSL, though.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 02:38 PM   #779
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"Unacceptable" is a little unfair methinks, "Totally as expected" would have been my choice of words, seeing as the average speeds on this railway and the newer autobahn are about the same.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 03:27 PM   #780
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Between Leipzig and Nürnberg they run throught hilly-montainous landscape on a century old railway, where speed can't be very high, so it's not that bad. The new HSL is full of tunnels, which were too expensive to be used much in the XIX century.

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