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Old April 29th, 2011, 01:07 PM   #941
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What does RZD stand for?
Rossiyskie zheleznye dorogi, i.e. the Russian Railways.

The cars from Berlin seem to especially popular. Although it's 8 hours faster if you change trains in Moscow.
Russian trains are usually fully booked during the holidays in summer and winter. Apart from that, it depends on where you want to go. I used the Rossiya last year, and about half of the people on it were tourists.

It's possible to buy sleeper reservations for the Ukraine and Russia at every booth of the German railways and most other European railway companies, although the clerks often don't know about this. I'm not sure about the basic fare, though.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 06:11 PM   #942
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Now, regarding German railways: there is now regular Moskva Express between Berlin and Moskau, as well as express trains from Berlin to beyond Moskva, like I think direct trains Berlin-Novosibirsk, Berlin-Astana.

Novosibirsk is not much closer to Berlin than Alashankow is. What kind of rolling stock do Germans use for direct trains beyond Moscow, and what are the technical requirements to get through?

What kind of rolling stock is on order for future services beyond the 1520 mm break of gauge, and could Germans start direct trains Berlin-Urumqi or Berlin-Beijing?
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Bientôt un train direct Paris – Moscou

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Après le Moscou – Nice lancé en septembre dernier, RZD annonce la mise en circulation d’un train reliant Moscou à Paris en 41 heures à compter de décembre prochain. C’est Mikhaïl Akoulov, son vice-président qui vient de l’annoncer dans le quotidien La Pravda. Depuis trois ans, il est possible de relier Paris à Moscou en 49 heures, mais une seule voiture part de Paris pour être rattachée au train Berlin – Moscou à l’arrivée dans la capitale allemande. Il s’agira cette fois d’un train entier, qui circulera via Berlin au « minimum trois fois par semaine, et cinq fois maximum », a précisé Mikhaïl Akoulov. A terme, la liaison sera assurée par des trains neufs, issus des usines de Siemens et de Tver Carriage Works.
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Soon a direct train Paris - Moscow

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After Moscow - Nice launched last September, RZD announces the release of a train from Moscow to Paris in 41 hours from December. It Akoulov Mikhail, vice-president who just announced in the newspaper Pravda. For three years, it is possible to link Paris to Moscow in 49 hours, but only one car from Paris to be attached to the train Berlin - Moscow on arrival in the German capital. This time an entire train, which will travel via Berlin to the "minimum of three times per week and maximum of five times,"said Mikhail Akoulov. Eventually, the route will be serviced by trains new, from the Siemens factory and Tver Carriage Works.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 09:10 AM   #943
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The Deutsche Bahn (DB) signed a contract with Siemens for 230 new ICX trains for 6 bln. €


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Old May 11th, 2011, 03:36 PM   #944
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DB AG and Siemens AG sign a multi-billion euro contract


CEOs of DB and Siemens, Dr. Rüdiger Grube and Peter Löscher, sign a multi-billion euro contract in the presence of Federal Minister of Transport Dr. Peter Ramsauer and Chairman of the DB Supervisory Board, Professor Utz-Hellmuth Felcht.



(Berlin, May 9, 2011) Deutsche Bahn AG and Siemens AG today officially signed the multi-billion euro contract for construction of up to 300 new long-distance trainsets. The signing took place at the DB Akademie in Potsdam, in the former Kaiserbahnhof.

The Chairman of the Management Board and CEO of Deutsche Bahn AG, Dr. Rüdiger Grube, and Peter Löscher, Chief Executive Officer of Siemens AG, signed the 8,000-page contract in the presence of the Federal Minister of Transport, Building and Urban Development, Dr. Peter Ramsauer, and the Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Deutsche Bahn AG, Professor Utz-Hellmuth Felcht. DB will immediately order 130 trainsets from the framework order agreement valid until 2030. An order of an additional 90 trainsets is planned. The potential order volume for the 220 trainsets totals some six billion euros. DB can order the remaining 80 trainsets at any time.
"This is a good day for the Germany economy. The trainsets, from their body shells through their final assembly, will be made entirely in Germany. This order will safeguard thousands of jobs, including many in the mid-sized supplier industry," explained the Federal Minister of Transport, Building and Urban Development, Dr. Peter Ramsauer. The Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Deutsche Bahn AG, Professor Utz-Hellmuth Felcht, said: "We are ensuring sustainable and successful further development of the company through the procurement of the new ICx trainsets."

DB CEO Grube commented: "With the ICx, we are laying the cornerstone for the long-distance transportation of the future and setting new standards in terms of reliability, environmental compatibility and comfort. The rail system will benefit as a result. Our customers in particular can look forward to riding on the most modern trains in the world."

Up to 30 percent less energy consumption

"The energy efficiency and modularity of these vehicles offers unrivaled economical operation, while the flexible interior structure will provide a whole new level of comfort for passengers. The ICx is thus setting new standards for transportation between metropolitan areas and cities," said Siemens CEO Peter Löscher.

The ICx will form the backbone of DB's long-distance transportation system in the future. The technical basis for the ICx is an innovative platform concept. However, it also incorporates tried-and proven components already successfully used in assorted fitting and equipment variants in other train series around the world. Despite technical standardization of the vehicles themselves, the ICx provides a high level of flexibility for assembling up to 24 different train configurations. This is made possible by “power cars,” train cars equipped with all the components that drive units have. As a result, the trains can be easily adapted to the volume of passengers and level of performance required. In addition, the platform concept ensures considerably lower maintenance and service costs.

Power cars enable flexible configuration of trainsets

There will be two ICx variants. The first is a seven-part multiple-unit train with three driven power cars. It reaches a top speed of 230 kilometers per hour and has 499 seats. This trainset will be used primarily in what is currently the IC network. Relatively few of the route sections in this network can be driven at over 200 kilometers per hour, meaning this top speed is fully sufficient.

The second variant is a ten-part multiple-unit train with up to five power cars and 724 seats. It has a top speed of 249 kilometers per hour. These ICx trainsets can thus replace the ICE 1 and ICE 2 fleet presently operating at a usual speed of 250 kilometers per hour. In terms of running technology, all ICx trainsets are able to run at 249 kilometers per hour. The existing fleet of ICE 3 trains is available for speeds of over 250 kilometers per hour. Each of the two ICx variants includes a fully equipped on-board restaurant with either
17 or 23 seats, as well as a bistro with a standing area. In addition, the trains have a family compartment and eight reservation-only bicycle storage slots.
A new seating generation offers passengers more room while at the same time increasing the number of seats. When the seat is adjusted, the backrest no longer reclines backwards but instead moves within the shell contour of the seat. All the first-class seats in the ICx are equipped with electrical outlets and with reading lamps that can be turned on as needed. In second class, each double seat has one electrical outlet. Every car is equipped with up to six ceiling screens and one monitor for passenger information per entryway. For travelers with limited mobility, each train has a built-in boarding assistance ramp and handicapped accessible lavatory.

Weight reduction of 20 tons

Thanks to its significantly improved aerodynamic form, the ICx has far less running resistance than the ICE trains currently in use. As a result of the lighter weight construction, it was also possible to reduce the weight for a 200-meter long train by some 20 metric tons. Energy consumption per passenger is up to 30 percent lower than in comparable existing trains.
One focal point of the contract was specification of quality criteria. For the first time in Europe, two ICx trainsets will be put through 14 months of trial operation, 12 of those in passenger service, before series production begins.
This will make it possible to identify improvement potential early on. The contract parties also agreed on a seven-month monitoring phase during which the data from the trainsets in operation will be fed directly back to Siemens. In addition, Siemens and DB will for the first time define joint milestones in the design and production phase that must be unanimously approved.
The first ICx trainsets are expect to enter into service in 2016. The new trains will be commissioned by line. Use of ICx trainsets for transportation in Germany will be given priority over neighboring European countries.






























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Old May 11th, 2011, 06:40 PM   #945
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I really hope that isn't the final design, it's quite ugly at the moment.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 07:12 PM   #946
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Apparently, the edgy design is going to save up to 30% energy.
These are certainly artist impressions, we'll see how that thing will turn out.
It looks somehow similar to the Velaro D, I think it will look somehow similar to that in the end.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #947
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I really hope that isn't the final design, it's quite ugly at the moment.
That's just a matter of taste. I actually quite like the design.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 09:25 PM   #948
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That's just a matter of taste. I actually quite like the design.
True, it is just a subjective opinion, but something just seems...not right
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Old May 12th, 2011, 08:51 AM   #949
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It really looks like that train has four types of beer on board.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 09:50 AM   #950
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It really looks like that train has four types of beer on board.
Well, it's a German train after all :-)
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Old May 13th, 2011, 07:05 AM   #951
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I really hope that isn't the final design, it's quite ugly at the moment.
It's slightly more angular - reminds me more of the first ICE trainsets actually! Bit of a retro look. I quite like it!
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It also reminds me somewhat of the Venturio train concept:

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Can't help it, but those second class seats look anything but comfy.

On the other hand the energy consumption reduction is definitely very good news.
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Can't help it, but those second class seats look anything but comfy.
They will probably be similar to the ones currently in use, which are quite comfy. The folding seats shown in one of the pictures are not representative for those in the rest of the train however.
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Well, it's a German train after all :-)
Say what? A REAL German train will have more than just four kinds of beer!



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Say what? A REAL German train will have more than just four kinds of beer!



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Things aren't always according to the stereotypes. To wit: Nowadays the food on German trains is much better than on French trains...
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Things aren't always according to the stereotypes. To wit: Nowadays the food on German trains is much better than on French trains...
And meanwhile British trains have both better food and beer than either French or German trains. No honestly, they do...
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Where are the Japanese trains within this discussion?
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Say what? A REAL German train will have more than just four kinds of beer!



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Well, they have four on tap, so who knows how many they have bottled..
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They will probably be similar to the ones currently in use, which are quite comfy. The folding seats shown in one of the pictures are not representative for those in the rest of the train however.
For the sake of the german arses, let's hope you're right.
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