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Old March 26th, 2012, 12:09 PM   #1261
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very dangerous situation at the last video. DB should install some PSDs there. Not overnight, but on a long-term plan to make stations safer and platforms more physically isolated from the tracks.
Installing platform screen doors is difficult if a line is served by different types of rolling stock with doors in different places.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #1262
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Installing platform screen doors is difficult if a line is served by different types of rolling stock with doors in different places.
Yes. They'd need then to install sliding PSDs or put the doors/gates on the stairs that give access to the platform, opening them only before a train that will stop is approaching.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 12:32 PM   #1263
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Yes. They'd need then to install sliding PSDs or put the doors/gates on the stairs that give access to the platform, opening them only before a train that will stop is approaching.
Seriously, doors on the stairs? Sometimes I find it particularly hard to know whether you are trying to joke while fooling everyone into thinking that you say those things for real, or you actually believe your words.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #1264
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I think the majority of fatal incidents of passengers falling on tracks happen near stations, not along rural areas, for obvious reasons.

Putting a physical barrier to seal off platforms would help.

Seat bels on airplanes were once considered "a joke" and helmets once heavily frowned upon by motorcyclists.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #1265
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99% incidents happens due to (mental) inability of some people to not cross the damn line!

Having a dedicated ROW - great! Just benefits of screening a to small for general use railways, compared to expenses and complicity of process. Unlike the mass urban transit and some stations of dedicated HSR, were PSD are easier to install and benefits are grater due to greater density of passengers.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #1266
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In 2008 I took this train from Copenhagen to Munich. The night train arrived 3h late to Munich. We went to the DB Travel-Info centre and received new tickets for Verona, we missed that connecting train because of the delay.

What is the situation nowadays? Are these long distance trains still slow and delayed?

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Old April 7th, 2012, 06:17 PM   #1267
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What is the situation nowadays? Are these long distance trains still slow and delayed?
I hope you realize that you can't derive a structural problem from a single incident.
Anyways, Süddeutsche Zeitung runs a live tracker of all long distance trains in Germany showing delays and reasons for a few weeks now: www.zugmonitor.sueddeutsche.de
Feel free to take your own conclusions!
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Old April 7th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #1268
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I think the majority of fatal incidents of passengers falling on tracks happen near stations, not along rural areas, for obvious reasons.

Putting a physical barrier to seal off platforms would help.

Seat bels on airplanes were once considered "a joke" and helmets once heavily frowned upon by motorcyclists.
Vast majority of people who get hit by trains are suicides you imbecile
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Old April 7th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #1269
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Yes. They'd need then to put the doors/gates on the stairs that give access to the platform, opening them only before a train that will stop is approaching.
Yeah, so that people will get crushed during rush hour.
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Old April 7th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #1270
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Vast majority of people who get hit by trains are suicides you imbecile
I was going to say the same, but you don't need to insult, suburbanist might have bizarre ideas but that precisely speaks well for him
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Old April 7th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #1271
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Yeah, so that people will get crushed during rush hour.
Danger of falling on tracks is greater than danger of crushing on gates IMO.
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Old April 8th, 2012, 04:04 PM   #1272
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Danger of falling on tracks is greater than danger of crushing on gates IMO.
Worthy proposals but shouldn't we focus on the greater danger first? The way to the train station on public roads?

Cars are dangerous, the only solution is to limit their speed to 30 km/h everywhere, install screen doors at all intersection and demand the constant use of the horn to warn endangered pedestrians.


Also, you're wrong. Stampedes might occur less frequently but can be extremely deadly and you can avoid falling on the tracks with a bit of prudence and common sense while there's nothing you can do if you get crushed by a mass of people.


I also don't see what's so dangerous about that specific platform. The escalator limits the number of people that can surface in any given time period and there is no reason for people to stop in that part of the platform so there is no overcrowding.
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Old April 8th, 2012, 04:18 PM   #1273
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Cars are dangerous, the only solution is to limit their speed to 30 km/h everywhere, install screen doors at all intersection and demand the constant use of the horn to warn endangered pedestrians.
I actually would propose that all cars have to be preceded by a person with a flag. A horn is a nuisance. Car drivers have to submit a driving plan before taking to the road, and those plans are published, so the public can inform itself.
I propose that we make filing a driving plan very expensive for people who want to just drive whenever they want, and give reductions to people who can commit to a schedule beforehand...
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Old April 8th, 2012, 04:19 PM   #1274
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Danger of falling on tracks is greater than danger of crushing on gates IMO.
The risk of both is vanishingly small, so it's really not relevant what is the higher risk...
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Old April 8th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #1275
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In 2008 I took this train from Copenhagen to Munich. The night train arrived 3h late to Munich. We went to the DB Travel-Info centre and received new tickets for Verona, we missed that connecting train because of the delay.
You wouldn't have had to go to the travel centre for that, you could just have boarded the next available train to Verona.

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What is the situation nowadays? Are these long distance trains still slow and delayed?
I've never had major delays on night trains the last couple of years. The night train to Köln I take regularly was punctual every time (I'm due to take that one again in two weeks time). We had maybe 10 minutes delay in Zagreb once.

Night trains actually have quite a bit of slack in their schedules so that they are usually on time. I once was on a Palermo - Milano train that managed to accumulate an hour of delay while still in Sicily, but arrived spot on time in Milano nevertheless.
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Old April 8th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #1276
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Night trains actually have quite a bit of slack in their schedules so that they are usually on time. I once was on a Palermo - Milano train that managed to accumulate an hour of delay while still in Sicily, but arrived spot on time in Milano nevertheless.
Those abominations were eliminated from the Italian timetable last December. But that is for the Italian thread.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 07:05 PM   #1277
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Seriously, doors on the stairs? Sometimes I find it particularly hard to know whether you are trying to joke while fooling everyone into thinking that you say those things for real, or you actually believe your words.
I know at least one station in Germany where you cannot access the platforms until a train has come to a full stop. Until then you're stuck behind a door with an electronic lock. Östrich-Winkel, west of Wiesbaden.
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Old April 15th, 2012, 03:04 AM   #1278
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Those abominations were eliminated from the Italian timetable last December. But that is for the Italian thread.
Thank god what you just said is bullshit as usual. Night trains still exist in Italy.
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Old April 15th, 2012, 09:01 AM   #1279
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Old April 17th, 2012, 11:48 PM   #1280
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You wouldn't have had to go to the travel centre for that, you could just have boarded the next available train to Verona.
not if it's some kind of discount tickets that only valid for that train/time or they have reservation seats.
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