A future vision of Salford.

[jrb]

Full article from today's edition of 'Homes' in the MEN.

Some very interesting comments and information.

"We now have a working masterplan that includes every area of the city. It is vitally important that we have a vision that everyone is working to and that we carry that through and set high standards."

[jrb]

Crescent Warf.(what info I could find)

Lock 6 , Outwood Wharf and Oldfield Road Wharf are buried below several metres of brick hardcore. The dip in the brick retaining wall indicates the site of Lock 6.

Very little can be seen of what once was a thriving commercial centre and the Salford terminus of the canal.

Most of Crescent wharf is now used by the University of Salford as a car park.





http://www.mbbcanal.demon.co.uk/towi.../oldfield.html

[dirtyred619]

Isn't that just behind the new proposal from a couple of weeks ago on Chapel Street?

[Caiman]

Not to be a naysayer on Salford's part. But pretty much everything shown on that Masterplan is practically inside Manchester City Centre. Stupid fucking irwell boundary bullshit. They're profiting from overspill really.

When we see the same levels of investment and redevelopment going on in inner city Salford then I might be impressed. I currently have the tremendous privledge of living next to lower broughton (in a Salford uni student village) and it's a fucking dismal disgrace around here and deeper into Salford itself.

[jrb]

There's no large towers on the Middlwood Locks site. Hmmm?

[9462]

is someone mysteriously deleting my posts???

[kids]

No, your comment

Originally Posted by 9462

This is not really the Salford most people know of.

is in the central salford developments thread.

I too noticed that jrb, but then again it doesn't have the towers that were submitted to ssc last week by the crecent, i don't think it's very accurate. Perhaps the towers at middlewood locks have not been confirmed yet and it's just basic massing to show something will be built there.

[rolybling]

Originally Posted by 9462

is someone mysteriously deleting my posts???

why do you say that 9462?

[Craig]

My concern with Salford is that, in its rush to play catch-up with Manchester and indeed its obsession with Manchester (which comes across in the article), they are not going to be choosy enough with the type and quality of development. Developers know that what might be rejected in Manchester might not be rejected in Salford. I'm glad they are now working to a masterplan because the developments immediately on the other side of the Irwell, ie the Lowry Hotel, Tax place, Edge etc. don't hang together well at all so that you leave the (in the main) clear legible streets of Manchester and cross over into a tangled mess. Yes there's some shiny new buildings amongst it all but its hardly a memorable (in a good sense) experience.

I wish Salford and their URC all the best in this because, as Manchester city centre pushes out in all directions, Salford has an important role and duty in ensuring this city region becomes even greater. Its okay having a moniker 'City Beautiful' but they will have to work hard to ensure we don't end up with a whole load of the same old same old connected through a series of tree-lined boulevards.

[doka..dan]

Originally Posted by Jon Reid

Not to be a naysayer on Salford's part. But pretty much everything shown on that Masterplan is practically inside Manchester City Centre. Stupid fucking irwell boundary bullshit. They're profiting from overspill really.

When we see the same levels of investment and redevelopment going on in inner city Salford then I might be impressed. I currently have the tremendous privledge of living next to lower broughton (in a Salford uni student village) and it's a fucking dismal disgrace around here and deeper into Salford itself.

I'll meet you at the Cromwell Roundabout!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SleepyOne]

My concern with Salford is that, in its rush to play catch-up with Manchester and indeed its obsession with Manchester (which comes across in the article), they are not going to be choosy enough with the type and quality of development. Developers know that what might be rejected in Manchester might not be rejected in Salford. I'm glad they are now working to a masterplan because the developments immediately on the other side of the Irwell, ie the Lowry Hotel, Tax place, Edge etc. don't hang together well at all so that you leave the (in the main) clear legible streets of Manchester and cross over into a tangled mess. Yes there's some shiny new buildings amongst it all but its hardly a memorable (in a good sense) experience.

I wish Salford and their URC all the best in this because, as Manchester city centre pushes out in all directions, Salford has an important role and duty in ensuring this city region becomes even greater. Its okay having a moniker 'City Beautiful' but they will have to work hard to ensure we don't end up with a whole load of the same old same old connected through a series of tree-lined boulevards.

Indeed. Well put. I too have complained about the abject lack of a decent masterplan for such a crucial site as Chapel Wharf which has resulted in this mess you talk about. Credit where its due though, top architects such as Fuksas has been brought on board to mastermind the whole of Central Salford comprising smaller masterplans such as Fielden Clegg's Greengate plan. I only hope, as you, that the components within these plans are of sufficient quality. I already have my doubts about one of the first major developments within Greengate - Dandara's Spectrum - despite it sitting directly opposite the architect's office and a stone's throw from the developer's regional base!! To me it just seems too bitty, incohesive and as you might say, doesn't really hang together very well considering the size of the site. I presume the form was dictated by the masterplan though. Have to wait and see.

[dgnr8]

I'd like to think that Salford once accepted any old proposal for money and to keep on a level pegging with Manc. After exercising this practise for several years, they've now built up a knowledge of what should and shouldn't be approved and now have a sense of quality. I think the days of Bellway's Trinity Way effort are behind us now.

[caw123]

Originally Posted by dgnr8

I think the days of Bellway's Trinity Way effort are behind us now.

But the days of this will long continue

[inquisitor57]

Is that a reclad or a new building, yuck! Hopefully the finished article will be a little easier on the eyes...

[Caiman]

Originally Posted by inquisitor57

Is that a reclad or a new building, yuck! Hopefully the finished article will be a little easier on the eyes...

Nope, new build. Right next to that smutty railway too. Must be desperate, those who want to buy there.

[rolybling]

My apologies if this has been discussed at great length previously but..Surely! Regents Road is prime for a bit of redevelopoment. What do we have at the moment? A tacky(but useful) retail park, a pub that's been shut down because of too many shootings, a Floors R Us type shop or something just as hideous, a carpet warehouse incase we all get sick of wood floors of course and thats about it, I think. It's a main route in and out of town and it looks like a pigs arse with the runs. Why Salford City council haven't got some sort of masterplan together for this side of town I don't know. Anyway, is it a lost cause? Will it become the road that we dare not speak it's name or is something gonna get done?

Discuss.

[jrb]

Originally Posted by rolybling

My apologies if this has been discussed at great length previously but..Surely! Regents Road is prime for a bit of redevelopoment. What do we have at the moment? A tacky(but useful) retail park, a pub that's been shut down because of too many shootings, a Floors R Us type shop or something just as hideous, a carpet warehouse incase we all get sick of wood floors of course and thats about it, I think. It's a main route in and out of town and it looks like a pigs arse with the runs. Why Salford City council haven't got some sort of masterplan together for this side of town I don't know. Anyway, is it a lost cause? Will it become the road that we dare not speak it's name or is something gonna get done?

Discuss.

Don't forget the peeling pink painted barriers and lampposts. I think the whole area comes under the Central Salford masterplan Roly. Which has gone very quiet.