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Old August 29th, 2010, 01:42 PM   #361
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Problem? If anything graffiti makes trains look better.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 07:06 AM   #362
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What you get for graffiti here in San Francisco is not necessarily the Big-easily noticeable type, but the more amateurish scribbling with permanent marker and Paint Pens on the inside of Vehicles Buses and Trains alike.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 07:42 AM   #363
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What you get for graffiti here in San Francisco is not necessarily the Big-easily noticeable type, but the more amateurish scribbling with permanent marker and Paint Pens on the inside of Vehicles Buses and Trains alike.
Suffice to say, its mighty hard to imagine 2 cities, Singapore & SF, where the attitudes toward public raffitti could be so different.

Singapore seems to work a lot better!
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Old August 30th, 2010, 11:27 AM   #364
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Actually, there is a lot of permanent marker/white-out scribbling on seats in Singapore, especially on buses. It's just the spray-painting that is extremely rare.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 12:06 PM   #365
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What you get for graffiti here in San Francisco is not necessarily the Big-easily noticeable type, but the more amateurish scribbling with permanent marker and Paint Pens on the inside of Vehicles Buses and Trains alike.
Graffiti in SF is almost everywhere despite strict laws. But it is rare on the BART especially on the outside.

But some BART trains though get bombed!





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Old August 31st, 2010, 01:28 AM   #366
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A lot of the public transit agencies, including MUNI, BART, Caltran, & others around the BayArea seem to be having serious trouble living within their operating budgets.

Sadly, the first that always gets cut is cleaning, leaving the buses & trains a complete mess of graffitti, & garbage.

The NYC subway system showed us the right way a few decades ago when it initiated a zero tolereance policy regarding graffitti, etc. It woked wonders in bringing a positive image for the subways.

We have to get back to that sense of pride in our public transit facilities.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 03:47 AM   #367
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http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/n...i_gang_jailed/

Graffiti gang jailed

2:55pm Sunday 12th October 2008

A gang of graffiti artists have been jailed after a two-year campaign of vandalism on trains and stations around south London, including an attack to Epsom.

Tom Collister, 22, of West Wickham, Darren Austin, 21, of Beckenham, Joshua Piehl, 19, of Tunbridge Wells, and William Setzdempsey, 19, of Uckfield - who belonged to the Just Kant Stop and the Forever Doing Crime crew - were jailed for a combined total of more than six years for their part the £60,000 worth of damage.

British Transport Police said the four were prolific vandals who caused delays and disruptions to train services after they defaced carriages during organised overnight tagging sessions – many committed while on bail.

According to police, they were linked to the crimes through photographs, paint cans and materials seized from their homes, as well as vehicles belonging to Collister and Setzdempsey containing spray cans and masks.

Among the items were pictures taken of the gang at work vandalising trains.

Mobile text messages planning the attacks were also retrieved by police.

Detective Sergeant Pete Thrush said the vandals were so intent on causing damage that not even the threat of death had deterred them.

"In 2004 Austin was arrested for trespassing on the railway in an incident where he received an electric shock from the 750 volt live rail.

"Yet he continued to trespass to spray graffiti on trains and sidings.

"In 2006 he handed an ASBO preventing him from carrying spray paint, but he was subsequently linked to a series of offences."

D Sgt Thrush said the group were linked to crimes via photographs, paint cans and materials seized from their homes.

Vehicles belonging to Collister and Setzdempsey containing spray cans, masks and other materials were also seized.

Tags belonging to the group were linked back to offences across the southeast, including Epsom.

"Numerous bits of graffiti paraphernalia were seized during various house searches.

"Many had tags linking back to each of them on everything from railway timetables to shoe boxes, with even a pair of slippers being seized with their tags on it," D Sgt Thrush said.

He said the group would communicate by text message to plan their next attack.

One such message included: "Safe M8 U up 4 doin a live tube plot 2nite". Another stated: "I'm doin sum track sides by myself anyway I've got 6 cans of stella an paint."

D Sgt Thrush said: "These people are persistent dedicated vandals.

"The court has recognised the seriousness of the offences, the risk these young men take with their lives and the cost to the train companies and public of south London.

"I would rather see people go to court than go to the morgue."

The four sentenced on Friday after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit criminal damage.

Judge Stephen Robbins said, in sentencing, graffiti and criminal damage was a serious offence and a jail term would act as a deterrent to others.

"The fact is that this type of offending sickens members of the public who have their travelling lives blighted by this sort of criminal damage," he said.

Collister was sentenced to 30 months jail for conspiracy after he was linked to tags SKEAMS, SKEAMZ, SKEAM and FDC.

Austin was sentenced to 18 months jail for the conspiracy. He was linked to the tag FDC.

Piehl was sentenced to 12 months jail for the conspiracy. He was linked to the tags SKAM and JKS.

Setzdempsey was sentenced to 15 months jail for the conspiracy. He was linked to the tags NOIS and JKS.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 09:30 PM   #368
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In Belgium It's a serious problem. I'd say 50% of all rolling stock is cladded.





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Discusting graffiti in Belgium:

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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:19 PM   #373
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A must see !!!!

Worst train station in Belgium: Kapellekerk in Brussels

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There seems to be little to no graffiti problems on the T and Commuter rail.

I could also be in denial about this.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 02:41 AM   #375
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There seems to be little to no graffiti problems on the T and Commuter rail.

I could also be in denial about this.
No, actually, it seems the case that most of the eastern US cities have a low tolerance for graffitti.

NYC & Philly were the worst, but NYC really cleaned it up. Boston never seemed as bad.

When public budgets are very tight everywhere across the US as they are now, cleaning up graffitti gets a lower priority.

Worst of all though is how transit has turned into fast food on wheels, with all the resultant mess & inconvieience.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 01:17 PM   #376
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No, actually, it seems the case that most of the eastern US cities have a low tolerance for graffitti.

NYC & Philly were the worst, but NYC really cleaned it up. Boston never seemed as bad.

When public budgets are very tight everywhere across the US as they are now, cleaning up graffitti gets a lower priority.

Worst of all though is how transit has turned into fast food on wheels, with all the resultant mess & inconvieience.
Graffiti cleaning in Belgium has also low priority. And I must say the trains that are cleaned look awfull aftherwards: they don't get repainted and on a lot of trains you can see the damaged origional paint with a lot of scratches on, or they get overpainted but not clearing the windows and that kind of stuff. The NMBS(nationale maatschappij der belgische spoorwegen)National Belgian railways system all run by our gouvernment wich has bigger problems on his hands nowadays... It's crisis and they can't afford repainting or repairing...It's really sad!
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Here is site on Graffiti on Belgian Trains:

http://www.fatcap.com/article/bbo-1.html
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The graffiti problem in Belgium can almost be compared to the graffiti problem in Italy.

Almost.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 09:18 PM   #379
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I think they should treat tagged cars as unsuitable for services, and so tagged stations. They shall remain closed and emergency cleaning teams should be deployed overnight if needed. Graffiti shall not be tolerated, regardless of the any bullshit argument about "the youth don't having a voice".
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 11:38 PM   #380
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I think they should treat tagged cars as unsuitable for services, and so tagged stations. They shall remain closed and emergency cleaning teams should be deployed overnight if needed. Graffiti shall not be tolerated, regardless of the any bullshit argument about "the youth don't having a voice".
You know, I actually agree with you for once. I hate graffiti on transport systems.
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