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Old January 25th, 2007, 06:15 AM   #141
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Wow, and I thought NY was bad! With the new trains, we don't get a lot of scratching since there are plastic covers on them now.
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Old January 26th, 2007, 05:04 PM   #142
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In Paris public averts had serious problem with graffiti some years ago between 2002 and 2004.
Those graffiti was paint by anti-averts associations
Some examples in Paris in 2003



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Old January 26th, 2007, 05:27 PM   #143
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Wow! That takes some courage.
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Old January 26th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #144
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i would say 'stupid' and not 'couragous', but it's only my point of view
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Old January 27th, 2007, 05:48 AM   #145
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In Berlin "European capital of graffiti" it gets even more worse!



So you see it´s a very big problem here.....
Wow, I've always wondered how the police in Germany can afford to use expensive luxury cars as patrol vehicles.
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Old January 29th, 2007, 12:00 AM   #146
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they arent really expensive in germany and the rest of Europe for that matter compared to North America they are baiscally Fords and Chevys. Iguess those cops were too busy eating doughnuts to pay attention to there cars.
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Old January 29th, 2007, 12:30 AM   #147
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lol a bmw is a lot lot cheaper in the USA than the UK
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Old January 29th, 2007, 02:03 AM   #148
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they arent really expensive in germany and the rest of Europe for that matter compared to North America they are baiscally Fords and Chevys.
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Old January 29th, 2007, 02:52 AM   #149
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In Paris public averts had serious problem with graffiti some years ago between 2002 and 2004.
In Paris - as in most cities in the world - the problem is too often the ad boards (humiliating our intellect all the time), and not the graffiti.
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Old January 29th, 2007, 02:39 PM   #150
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In Paris public averts had serious problem with graffiti some years ago between 2002 and 2004.
Those graffiti was paint by anti-averts associations
but RATP has do lawsuits against those associations.
I think I've see a document about those French anti-advert associations. First I thought they are just some stupid vandals who see themselves as heroes who fight for what's right. But they actually have some good points - who really has right to decide how our everyday environment is like? Some advertisers who just want to get your money?

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Old January 29th, 2007, 08:46 PM   #151
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^ thats exactly what i wrote my dissertation about at university 'graffiti and advertising in our public spaces, why is one accepted and the other not'. was interesting to note the similarities of both their goals, and methods.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 11:16 AM   #152
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I wish such attacks on adverts would happen more often. Especially here in Australia.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 08:02 PM   #153
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On a related subject we had a grisly incident on my line while I was on Annual leave: On January 12th a group of 4 graffiti writers were chased from Barking Sidings by security, and 2 of them ran into the path of a westbound District Line train and were killed. The 2 survivors banged on the driver's door and started shouting that he'd just killed their mates... errr, like as if he could swerve... its pretty obvious who they have to blame for being dead.

The poor driver is only 23 bless him, a really nice lad... Now the BTP want to arrest him because (under instruction) he moved the train to Barking platform before the emergency services arrived. So great, you kill 2 people because they were stupid enough to run in front of your train, you then get harssed by their mates, and then get arrested for your trouble. And people wonder why Tube drivers get paid so much.

This is the second accidental 'double' one-under in as many months, 2 people fell under a train at my station (Earl's Court) just before Christmas.

******* idiots
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Old January 30th, 2007, 10:02 PM   #154
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New York hasnt had a major death of graff artists since the 80s
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Old February 1st, 2007, 02:17 PM   #155
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some more Berlin stuff:























The famous 1UP crew fom Berlin Kreuzberg, with the most graffiti in Berlin
Also seen in Britain, France, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands, Finland, Poland, Italy, Greece....














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Old February 1st, 2007, 03:28 PM   #156
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I wonder if your train depots are secured at all - those writers seem to have time to do their work really carefully.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 04:39 PM   #157
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I wonder if your train depots are secured at all - those writers seem to have time to do their work really carefully.
Yes, the depots are well secured but a big part of the trains are standing outside at night!
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 02:10 AM   #158
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LOL @ the Graffitie'd Cow!
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Old February 10th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #159
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There is almost no graffiti on trains or trams in Estonia and even if there is any, it is cleaned quite fast. But some examples:

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Old February 10th, 2007, 11:08 PM   #160
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In Lisbon graffiti is not a big problem,but there are many trains with graffiti's

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