Park Hill Flats Regeneration (Urban Splash)

[OranjeS3]

I was interested about your comment on the lower levels being left unfinished with the 'hope' of retail filling them. How unfinished do you think they will be and did they give any clue as to expected demand for the units? I suppose I am just worried that they will do a great job making the flats look good and then have an awful looking and ghost town feel to the ground floor for years as we see on so many new Sheffield apartments.

[Nathowl]

Thanks for the photos, great shot of st pauls tower in there too

[larven]

I love it. Cheers for the pics and the updates dinp.

Believe it or not the most exciting recent revelation for me was that pic of the high quality paving being used for the 'external streets'. It all very well having bold ideas and striking architecture but its important to get the details right too.

[Steely_Blade]

It's looking better than I thought it would.

My concern is still the same though in that it's going to be v.difficult to attract people in there. Afterall there is a huge stigma attached to it.

Still think they should have only kept a smallish section and then created a new development for the rest of site....

[Superfly]

I would live in the city side at the drop of a hat! It's almost unbelievable how new they've made it look. I'm telling you, that curtain-wall design is timeless, and when it's all done it'll look like the proper piece architecture it should've been all along!

It's actually made me feel quite emotional!

Thanks Dean!

[/sob]

[jozblade]

Great pictures! You should post them on the city talk area, if you haven't already.

[judd newto]

Originally Posted by Superfly

I would live in the city side at the drop of a hat! It's almost unbelievable how new they've made it look. I'm telling you, that curtain-wall design is timeless, and when it's all done it'll look like the proper piece architecture it should've been all along!

It's actually made me feel quite emotional!

Thanks Dean!

[/sob]

Not being a architect just a bricki,am i right in thinking in regard to your post that the original city architects got it wrong.And if so why has PH become so iconic among architects when the listing by English Heritage was so loudly condemned by all and sundry in the first place.

[Bladerunner]

Thanks for the pics. Interesting to hear that the percentage of social housing will be so small.

[poshbakerloo]

Its the yellow that kills me a little everyday I see it!

[dinp]

Originally Posted by Superfly

I would live in the city side at the drop of a hat! It's almost unbelievable how new they've made it look. I'm telling you, that curtain-wall design is timeless, and when it's all done it'll look like the proper piece architecture it should've been all along!

It's actually made me feel quite emotional!

Thanks Dean!

[/sob]

The flats are dual aspect, so irrespective of whether you get a 1 or a 2 bed,
you have windows on both sides of the building.

I'm impressed by what i've seen so far, can't wait to see a show flat once they get round to it.

[Bladerunner]

I think this project really needs good landscaping between the flats and the station. Possibly an upgrade of the station tram stop too, to offer more protection against the weather. This stop will be much busier when the flats are full again.

[hella good]

I'd personally love an apartment in Park Hill, if I had the money for it

[thryve]

What's that part that sticks up on the roof in the top right (in the image below)?

[dinp]

The lift shaft

[Superfly]

Originally Posted by judd newto

Not being a architect just a bricki,am i right in thinking in regard to your post that the original city architects got it wrong.And if so why has PH become so iconic among architects when the listing by English Heritage was so loudly condemned by all and sundry in the first place.

Ha ha, no Judd, they didn't get it wrong at all. However, the re-specification of the building for the different uses it will have in the next 40 years has meant that a 'softening' of the original facade look and less fussy window upgrade, along with other aspects of the development, mean it's architectural style is becoming more modern, and less brutal. The image Thryve posted above is a perfect example of this. (PS there's no such thing as 'just a bricki', you built these architect's dreams!)

How ace would be if they turned the lift shaft into a duplex viewing pod. Now that'd make me very jealous!

[judd newto]

Originally Posted by Superfly

Ha ha, no Judd, they didn't get it wrong at all. However, the re-specification of the building for the different uses it will have in the next 40 years has meant that a 'softening' of the original facade look and less fussy window upgrade, along with other aspects of the development, mean it's architectural style is becoming more modern, and less brutal. The image Thryve posted above is a perfect example of this. (PS there's no such thing as 'just a bricki', you built these architect's dreams!)

How ace would be if they turned the lift shaft into a duplex viewing pod. Now that'd make me very jealous!

Cheers Buddy,i have worked with some brilliant architects in the past . Phill Khorassandjian,[spelling]. Alan Burnell, The late great Matt Tatlow to name a few but the greatest of them all who i never new personally was Womersley, As i was only a apprentice when he and Sir Andrew Derbyshire Where changeing the face of Sheffield forever.So to me the original exterior design of there iconic buildings cannot be bettered.Cheers any way you have made my day.

[cheaperthrillz]

Originally Posted by hella good

I'd personally love an apartment in Park Hill, if I had the money for it

Why not register and go on the waiting list for one of the social housing flats?

Parkway Housing 0114 2626800

I do worry though about Parkway Housing because of the caliber of tenants they mostly deal with, mostly evicted council tenants who are now housed in properties they own on the neighbouring Wybourn estate.

[judd newto]

Originally Posted by cheaperthrillz

Why not register and go on the waiting list for one of the social housing flats?

Parkway Housing 0114 2626800

I do worry though about Parkway Housing because of the caliber of tenants they mostly deal with, mostly evicted council tenants who are now housed in properties they own on the neighbouring Wybourn estate.

Whats the caliber then.Do you actually know any one on the Wybourn.The Parkhill was built for COUNCIL TENANTS.The goal posts are now being moved so as the wealthy can and will enjoy the city,s finest spot.Carry on worrying you deserve it.

[cheaperthrillz]

Originally Posted by judd newto

Whats the caliber then.Do you actually know any one on the Wybourn.The Parkhill was built for COUNCIL TENANTS.The goal posts are now being moved so as the wealthy can and will enjoy the city,s finest spot.Carry on worrying you deserve it.

Yes several, my uncle and his neighbours life is been made a complete misery thanks to Parkway Housing assocaition, and whilst there are some very good housing associations Parkway is not one of them,

The problem arose since all the stock transfer agreements which saw former Council homes being sold off to Housing Associations, although HA's are still non-profit they're in a better position to get more money from various different funding streams,

If a HA takes on the role of wanting to 'change' ASB families, this will ensure they meet all the criteria to secure that extra funding, local councils can distance themselves, hand the problems over to HA's and the result is estates have the same neighbours from hell moving back just housed by a different aliases, who are not answerable to anyone.

[judd newto]

Originally Posted by cheaperthrillz

Yes several, my uncle and his neighbours life is been made a complete misery thanks to Parkway Housing assocaition, and whilst there are some very good housing associations Parkway is not one of them,

The problem arose since all the stock transfer agreements which saw former Council homes being sold off to Housing Associations, although HA's are still non-profit they're in a better position to get more money from various different funding streams,

If a HA takes on the role of wanting to 'change' ASB families, this will ensure they meet all the criteria to secure that extra funding, local councils can distance themselves, hand the problems over to HA's and the result is estates have the same neighbours from hell moving back just housed by a different aliases, who are not answerable to anyone.

Well your uncle and his neighbours along with the good people i know on the Wybourn and other council estates in Sheffield will be welcome on to Parkhill when its finished, and those without the proper calibre of whatever background they may originate from can bugger off,then we all have no need to worry.
Regards Judd.